: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:10 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I think that why Bailey has to leave imo because we can't afford to be letting these lads go.

I'd let Pryce, Smith and Bailey leave without question and possibly Coley aswell dependant on who we can get in to replace him.

I'd bring Goulding back from Salford to act as back up in place of Pryce.

I'd also look at loaning one of O'Carroll/Prescott out for the season if we bring in another prop and keep Coley because we can't afford to let them sit in the reserves.

Id give Pryce another year and be more inclined to let Goulding leave - although there needs to be a review of Goulding/Pryce and see if either could replace Carmont with a view to him maybe leaving at the end of this season.

Prescott and O'Carroll - the weaker prop needs to be allowed to go on loan next year with the remaining one being our 4th choice prop behind Fielden, Feka & NEW PROP.

Coley needs to be released along with Smith & Bailey.

Phelps deserves a new deal and should stay.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:30 am  

Boris wrote:

Looking and buying are two different things. I am quite partial to walking down past the shops in Bond street and looking at the lovely watches on display in many of the shop windows. Sadly, I am unable to purchase the watches.

Let us hope Wigan are not getting themselves into this situation.

Well it would be suicide to do so. Have yourself photographed with Carl Webb's agent, say your looking at Mason and Orford and end up with Darrell Griffin and Ryan McGolderick would send fans into a fury.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:33 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

To be fair to Lenagan he never made any promises on the 2009 season and admitted that we didn't have that much room under the salary cap.

On the other hand he's said since the day that he took over that we'd have alot more room to play with in 2010..................over to Mr Lenagan!

Again I don't believe we didn't have much room on the salary cap.

Are you telling me Riddell and Roberts aren't on six figure salarys? and that Ryles, Carvell or Buderus will be on a hefty figure more? Nah don't believe that we didn't have much room under the cap.

The Gleeson signing almost proves that Mathers will not have been earning a six figure sum at Wigan and neither will Goulding and are you telling me both of those wages will equal Gleesons?

I don't believe everything IL says.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:50 am  

cadoo wrote:

I don't believe everything IL says.

Nor me but thats no bad thing.

I think he plays his cards close to his chest alot of the time whilst spinning the media a few lines.

Gleeson is a high profile, good signing but we need a couple more.

He's spoke about Mason, O'Meely and Orford in the Aussie press and going off past form that means it's unlikely we'll be signing them! He tends not to comment on the players we actually get so i think again we'll all be suprised when signings are announced.

I think it's his way off throwing other clubs off the scent but then again i can't have seen many clubs clambering to sign Mathers, Pryce, Riddell etc

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:07 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Nor me but thats no bad thing.
I think he plays his cards close to his chest alot of the time whilst spinning the media a few lines.

Gleeson is a high profile, good signing but we need a couple more.

He's spoke about Mason, O'Meely and Orford in the Aussie press and going off past form that means it's unlikely we'll be signing them! He tends not to comment on the players we actually get so i think again we'll all be suprised when signings are announced.

I think it's his way off throwing other clubs off the scent but then again i can't have seen many clubs clambering to sign Mathers, Pryce, Riddell etc

It does surpise me that so many fans seem to feel they have a right to be kept informed 100% on every move the chairman is making.

Surely people accept that in a cattle-market like this there are deceptions and counter-deceptions? Surely they also accept that people are often misquoted in newspapers, and sometimes merely mention names because these names have been put to them by journalists who have read message boards like this where all kinds of ridiculous fantasies are aired?

I'd be more upset if our chairman - who already communicates more directly with the fans than any other chairman in SL (do any others post on fan sites?) - was so forthcoming that his every recruitment strategy was delivered to the press in full before he even embarked on it.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:41 pm  

My 87 year old mother commented the other day about "all this signing thing in the papers"

She said, "The only time we ever knew about a signing, was when the player had actually signed, it was always kept in-house until it was done & dusted"

IL is a successful businessman and will not reveal his hand until it is necessary, and that's how it should be. Let the fans speculate by all means as it's good fun, but the real world doesn't work like that.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:47 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

My 87 year old mother commented the other day about "all this signing thing in the papers"

She said, "The only time we ever knew about a signing, was when the player had actually signed, it was always kept in-house until it was done & dusted"

IL is a successful businessman and will not reveal his hand until it is necessary, and that's how it should be. Let the fans speculate by all means as it's good fun, but the real world doesn't work like that.

Message boards like this have turned the rumour factory thing into a living, breathing entity. So many names are thrown around on these pages - many owing to nothing more than mischief or wishful thinking - and yet each one takes on a life of its own.

At one time, you had to go down to The Royal Oak or The Griffin to get the latest rumours. As a result, you had quality rather than quantity in those days.

Some of the stuff on here is truly scurrilous, and yet we blame the club when they don't come off. Okay that isn't the whole picture, but it accounts for a good percentage of it.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:05 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

My 87 year old mother commented the other day about "all this signing thing in the papers"

She said, "The only time we ever knew about a signing, was when the player had actually signed, it was always kept in-house until it was done & dusted"

IL is a successful businessman and will not reveal his hand until it is necessary, and that's how it should be. Let the fans speculate by all means as it's good fun, but the real world doesn't work like that.

I would argue IL is showing his hand. He feeds the speculation of the fans by constantly dropping names of players he's interested in to the press, something that the vast majority of other clubs do not do.

He himself is responsible for raising fans' expectations so he should not be surprised when the same fans expect him to deliver the same standard of player he constantly talks about.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:16 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

I would argue IL is showing his hand. He feeds the speculation of the fans by constantly dropping names of players he's interested in to the press, something that the vast majority of other clubs do not do.

He himself is responsible for raising fans' expectations so he should not be surprised when the same fans expect him to deliver the same standard of player he constantly talks about.

That's a big oversimplification, for the reasons I posted above.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:57 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

That's a big oversimplification, for the reasons I posted above.

With respect I see no reasons in your post above.

I am simply stating the facts, Lenagan does not help himself.