Bizarre statement. What is a medical department supposed to do about a ruptured Achilles- Dodd and Grace?



Walmsley is a broken bone



Lomax ruptured his bicep and you’d have to say we’ve done superbly to manage him the way we have, he hasn’t missed a game through injury since.



It’s not like we are suffering soft tissue injuries or the same type of injury is it?



I’m also confident there’s not a medical department in the world of sport that can do anything about Hopoate. He’s a lost cause



We are still the fittest and most conditioned team in the comp.

Pretty much nailed it.



They love the "never write the Saints off" crap that Eddie came out with don't they? They're the only side to ever win against the odds or to ever come from behind and steal a win (the playoff win not being as good a comeback as ours against Bradford a few weeks earlier BTW) when it happens.



Was talking with a friend the other day about the last few years. If we had won the two COVID season titles, do you think we'd be given the same credit or would there be **** everywhere?

Or you could say injuries that are unlucky that you've been lucky not to pick up the last few years?

This place is schizophrenic - when we’re not being told Saints have no injury problems and three is nothing on the back of years of no issues (ie the medical and conditioning team continue to do a good job), we’re being told we’ve got injuries therefore the medical and conditioning team can’t be performing better than others.



And when we’re not being told we’d be the same as everyone else without a freak like Walmsley, we’re being told our pack is still great without him.



Not to mention the irony of pointing out Saints fans playing down chances due to injury as some sort of advance coping mechanism whilst at the same time minimising the impact of Saints missing players and saying how strong saints still are as some sort of advance coping mechanism in case we go on to win it!

I’m not sure I’m the person who said Walmsley was the difference was I?! I’ve banged the drum of guys like Knowles and Paasi all season on here. The Saints pack will include Lees, Paasi, LMS, Knowles, Sironen, Mautautia, Roby, Lussick etc, so as I say it’s absolute class. I’ve had you favourites before the season, during the season and I still do now.



A team once won a Grand Final with 6 or 7 injured players and had a few of them limping on to the field on crutches at the end to celebrate, so 3 guys is childs play in comparison. I honestly do expect Saints to win the thing but I won’t be buying in to the narrative that some Saints fans will push about how it’s a minor miracle.

It was a bizarre line being thrown about by Saints fans, you’re right. We comment that you’ve been lucky with injuries and get told it’s because of a class leading medical and conditioning team. A few injuries happen and now it is down to luck after all.



In summary we agree. You’ve had 3 or 4 unbelievably lucky seasons with injuries and this season you’ve been ‘relatively’ unlucky (but still had it much better than many other clubs).

So what, five season of looking better conditioned and being lucky with injuries now? How many until it might havesomething to do with conditioning?



Don’t know why Saints bothered whipping the squad to St George’s Park this week for better facilities for prep and recovery, should have just given them all a rabbit’s foot like they have done since 2018.

Make your minds up. Stu's post basically says.....



You don't get injuries because your conditioning is the best. (Fine, I can buy into that)



This year you get injuries but it's nothing to do with conditioning because they're broken bones. (Injuries you could have got any time of course but didn't whereas every other club did)



You weren't lucky with injuries when you got none but are unlucky now you get some.



And we're the schizophrenic ones.

In the words of Jackie Gleason



'Get in the car Junior, We are surrounded by a mental case'

Got to remember Walmsley missed the magic game which saints won so they can win without him.



Is Hopoate injured ?

FWIW (and I’m not saying they can’t win on Saturday and the GF thereafter) but I found Woolf in his pre-match press conference on social media very unsure. Usually he is very straight talking, assured and matter of fact. He looked confused himself regarding the injuries and the game itself ahead. I think the game deserves a Sts v Wigan final as the previous meetings this year have been a level above any other game IMO, but I just have a feeling Saints are vulnerable and Salford might just do it.



On the other hand, Rohan Smith looked assured but I think it may be a game just too far for Leeds. Can’t wait for this weekend!

As a Hull fan, who has no bias, I think and have done all season, that Wigan will be crowned champions, regardless of who else makes the final. Under Peet, you look different to the previous Wigan teams, he's instilled that Wigan class into this team and the feeling, for me , is like that of the Wigan of old. Professional, reactive and everyone on the same page. Salford have done brilliantly well, even if they get hammered against Saints, which I don't think will happen, but Saints will overcome them, Croft's expected absence will be the difference in my opinion and then they'll probably face Wigan in the GF- and what a game that will be. I think some of your players, like say Smithies, Havard and Smith have improved and are now at a much higher level which is down to Peet and his team and your genuine pace in the back line, with a hard edged pack of hungry young and experienced olayers, makes you top dogs for me.