Re: Covid : Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:12 am  

nathan_rugby wrote:

You do realise almost every single country in the world is pushing for vacccinations and boosters ?

Or is this just one big conspiracy at the highest level?

Whose benefiting ? When you look at the UK, other than pharma companies making money I am not sure anybody else is at all and that includes the government.

Its not a conspiracy theory when someone points out a lot of people have made a lot of money from this, which will be paid for by the taxpayer.

Who owns serco for a start?

Listen to the Joe Rogan and Dr Robert Malone podcast to see how corrupt it is, for instance Jim/James Smith is on the board of Reuters and Pfizer, is that not a conflict of interest? So on the board of mainstream media outlet and the vaccine developer?

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:12 am  

And Here we go

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:15 am  

post wrote:

Its not a conspiracy theory when someone points out a lot of people have made a lot of money from this, which will be paid for by the taxpayer.

Who owns serco for a start?

Listen to the Joe Rogan and Dr Robert Malone podcast to see how corrupt it is, for instance Jim/James Smith is on the board of Reuters and Pfizer, is that not a conflict of interest? So on the board of mainstream media outlet and the vaccine developer?

We aren’t allowed to discuss this apparently because his Twitter account has been taken down therefore his opinion doesn’t count.

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:18 am  

nathan_rugby wrote:

So why are we not pushing ahead with the 4th Jan / 2nd booster then?

What’s the reason for these conspiracies then? Who benefits ? For what reason?

I guarantee that we will be in the future, it’s only a matter of time.

Netherlands have said their population will need booster 4 and 5, funnily enough they had already purchased or agreed to purchase enough up front to booster 4 and 5.

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:52 am  

WiganRL12345 wrote:

You have got to be joking, I’m summary what you are saying is it’s ok for people to be unhealthy because they pay ‘more’ tax by default due to the amount they eat.

On your last point, I thought that nobody was advocating mandatory vaccination yet you want to tax people for not having it? If said unvaccinated person doesn’t occupy a hospital bed do they get the tax back?

On reflection I agree.

Have a covid passport that allows you entry to large-scale events and also nightclubs/restaurants for all those double/triple/quadruple vaccinated, but you must have the option of a negative lateral flow test taken within the last 24 hours as its completely unfair to exclude the unwilling unvaccinated from society.

This policy fits in well with the rumour that LF Tests will soon no longer be free for the whole nation.

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:54 pm  

muttywhitedog wrote:

On reflection I agree.

Have a covid passport that allows you entry to large-scale events and also nightclubs/restaurants for all those double/triple/quadruple vaccinated, but you must have the option of a negative lateral flow test taken within the last 24 hours as its completely unfair to exclude the unwilling unvaccinated from society.

This policy fits in well with the rumour that LF Tests will soon no longer be free for the whole nation.

you can catch covid and pass it on even if you are jabbed so your policy should really be everybody should take a lft for all of those events you mentioned / good luck with that

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:40 pm  

post wrote:

Kids weren't affected by any previous strains, Omicron is milder, so why.would someone want to get their kids jabbed unless they were scared into doing so?

A lot of my mates kids have had it, prob about 10 to 12 kids and all of them have had no symptoms or just a sniffle. So why subject them to gene therapy? Which in 2002 led to the children who recieved gene therapy to develop leukemia 2 years later?

I followed covid closely up until recently when I left the NHS, those hospital numbers aren't and have never been what people think. Hospital aquired infection was roughly 30% at least sometimes went up to 50%, so someone in hospital for a longer period of time would end up catching it but not in hospital due to it as some people think when they see the figures. With omIcron spreading easier due to the viral load being higher and in the bronchial passage its easier and faster spread so guess what? Those hospital numbers are higher.

Trust your own eyes and ears, what have the kids been like who you know with covid? Dont listen to the figures or the politicians.

Don't listen to the figures? You mean don't listen to the figures when they don't suit what you hope / believe in? Given what I posted is what has actually happened (i.e. facts) I'll go with what they are saying thanks.

When it comes to epidemics, I tend to listen what epidemiologists say..

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:47 pm  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

Don't listen to the figures? You mean don't listen to the figures when they don't suit what you hope / believe in? Given what I posted is what has actually happened (i.e. facts) I'll go with what they are saying thanks.

When it comes to epidemics, I tend to listen what epidemiologists say..

So you are suggesting to vaccinate all children from birth based on 3 weeks worth of data?

I will re ask the questions I asked which you haven’t answered too.

1. Is it hospital admission because of omicron or with omicron when in hospital?

2. How is it determined they have omicron specifically?

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:55 pm  

WiganRL12345 wrote:

So you are suggesting to vaccinate all children from birth based on 3 weeks worth of data?

Where have I said or suggested that?

The problem with straw men is they're easy to burn down.

Interesting that your account was set-up a few days ago with the name WiganRL....... but has only posted in a Covid thread. Hmmmmm......

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:11 pm  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

Where have I said or suggested that?

The problem with straw men is they're easy to burn down.

Interesting that your account was set-up a few days ago with the name WiganRL....... but has only posted in a Covid thread. Hmmmmm......

The fact that you have posted a graph showing an increase in hospital admissions for unvaccinated children suggests that’s what you are saying. I just asked the question if you think that’s the right thing to do?

Do you disagree then with vaccinating children?

Not really what my posting history has to do with anything at all really. Do you want me to prove I’m a Wigan fan ha