: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:57 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Please Listen to the other side of the argument

Nobody is saying there shouldn't be a salary Cap (Apart from maybe BK )

What people are saying is that it should be a % of the Turnover of a Particular club i.e

If a Club Turns over 10M Why can't they spend 5M
If a Club Turns over 4M They Spend 2M

Something similar to that would encourage clubs to concentrate on Building there Business/Club rather than Leeching off the other clubs with Better Youth Policies etc.

There are Numerous other suggestions Like Rogues who says a % of a Players Wages Shouldn't be counted if he was Club trained encouraging the use of more Home Grown Players.

Didn't they scrap the 50% turnover thing 2 or 3 years ago because it didn't work?

[Pemps]

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:37 pm  

Monsignor Julio Mazarin wrote:

What a picture your comment invokes.

In your twisted mind Paul.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:23 pm  

John D H wrote:

And Senior would probably get in before Iro IMO:

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:12 pm  

cadoo wrote:

:shock:

Yep. Iro was never that good for Leeds IMO. Innes was a class above though.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:52 pm  

Some astonishing posts on this thread from people that know very little about RL.

Wigan in the mid-90s were a very fit side, any difference at all in fitness levels would be marginal. (Personally I'm not convinced that current SL players at Saints or Leeds are fitter in any event).

Leaving that aside, the Wigan forwards in both the 94 and 95 teams would be too strong for Leeds or Saints today. And as for the backs, the backs who played that day for the 94 side were very good, at least as good as any SL side today... and the 95 side is much, much better than any back division that has ever played for any team in the SL era:

Henry Paul
Jason Robinson, Va'aiga Tuigamala, Gary Connolly, Martin Offiah
Frana Botica, Shaun Edwards

No Saints or Leeds team has ever (and in all likelihood will ever) even come close to that level of quality.

Let's not forget also that the '94 side was, of course, the team that beat the great Brisbane side on their own ground in front of over 50,000 fans.

The tired attempts by Saints fans and others to rewrite history and denigrate the achievements of the great Wigan sides of the late 80s and early 90s are simply embarassing.

: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:56 pm  

Deano G wrote:

Some astonishing posts on this thread from people that know very little about RL.

Wigan in the mid-90s were a very fit side, any difference at all in fitness levels would be marginal. (Personally I'm not convinced that current SL players at Saints or Leeds are fitter in any event).

Leaving that aside, the Wigan forwards in both the 94 and 95 teams would be too strong for Leeds or Saints today. And as for the backs, the backs who played that day for the 94 side were very good, at least as good as any SL side today... and the 95 side is much, much better than any back division that has ever played for any team in the SL era:

Henry Paul
Jason Robinson, Va'aiga Tuigamala, Gary Connolly, Martin Offiah
Frana Botica, Shaun Edwards

No Saints or Leeds team has ever (and in all likelihood will ever) even come close to that level of quality.

Let's not forget also that the '94 side was, of course, the team that beat the great Brisbane side on their own ground in front of over 50,000 fans.

The tired attempts by Saints fans and others to rewrite history and denigrate the achievements of the great Wigan sides of the late 80s and early 90s are simply embarassing.

Agreed 100%. People put far too much emphasis on "modern advances in training and fitness" etc because Eddie and Stevo bang on about the game getting better and better and better and better...

That Wigan team of 94/95 was as good as any team I've ever seen, they were like an all star team. Full-time too obviously, they were hardly sitting on their ar$es all day getting fat. Anyone who thinks they were not as good as the Saints team of '06 or Bradford '03 due to so-called "modern advances" are talking out of their ar$e.

Re: Interesting on the Leeds site! : Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:24 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote: Look at both the Leeds and Wigan sides. Then tell me that Superleague has improved the game. http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=398545 How many of the current Wigan / Leeds teams would get anywhere near those sides. Couldn't care less about the current Wigan side, but the current Leeds side would walk all over that 90's Leeds team. It is far better now in almost every position.

Rogues Gallery wrote: Look at both the Leeds and Wigan sides. Then tell me that Superleague has improved the game. http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=398545 How many of the current Wigan / Leeds teams would get anywhere near those sides. Couldn't care less about the current Wigan side, but the current Leeds side would walk all over that 90's Leeds team. It is far better now in almost every position.

: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:28 am  

Deano G wrote:

Some astonishing posts on this thread from people that know very little about RL.

Wigan in the mid-90s were a very fit side, any difference at all in fitness levels would be marginal. (Personally I'm not convinced that current SL players at Saints or Leeds are fitter in any event).

Leaving that aside, the Wigan forwards in both the 94 and 95 teams would be too strong for Leeds or Saints today. And as for the backs, the backs who played that day for the 94 side were very good, at least as good as any SL side today... and the 95 side is much, much better than any back division that has ever played for any team in the SL era:

Henry Paul
Jason Robinson, Va'aiga Tuigamala, Gary Connolly, Martin Offiah
Frana Botica, Shaun Edwards

No Saints or Leeds team has ever (and in all likelihood will ever) even come close to that level of quality.

Let's not forget also that the '94 side was, of course, the team that beat the great Brisbane side on their own ground in front of over 50,000 fans.

The tired attempts by Saints fans and others to rewrite history and denigrate the achievements of the great Wigan sides of the late 80s and early 90s are simply embarassing.

Of course not

: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:12 am  

John D H wrote:

Of course not

You Carry on Deluding Yourself!

: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:14 am  

Jukesays wrote:

You Carry on Deluding Yourself!

So your telling me Leeds or Saints have never produced a backline, as good as Wigan's in mid 90s EVER?