Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:01 pm  

MattyB wrote:

Surely the club wouldn't have included an 'immediate get out clause' in the contract (assuming we have one, you never know these days).

I'd like to think the NRL clause would only trigger after a first full season with us. Anything less leaves us with our pants pulled down and legs wide open.

Surely not.

Hopefully not mate! But you never know. I think if he huffs and puffs enough we'll let him go.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:05 pm  

tugglesf78 wrote:

This is my take on it too

Hes portrayed himself as a bad lad turned a corner etc and specifically mentioned Lam as being an influential person in his life regarding that.

He still has sacks of credibility for the moment as these are all rumours. However if he jibs of Wigan then a lot of the stuff hes previously said counts for very little.

I think the stuff he has created at Salford is fantastic and he has acted like a real credit to the UK game IMO. However that image or legacy should be ripped up if he rescinds on a contract with Wigan.

And that not me saying boo hoo who, hes loves Salford but hates Wigan etc. Whilst i love our Club and i am fairly partisan about it, telling Wigan to eff off in Favour of an NRL clubs is a problem for all of SL.

Many fans will pop on here and take the pee out of Wigan for losing another signing and fair enough if that's your thing....

However the precedence of late across a LOT of UK teams regarding the likes of Denny Solomona, Kalum Watkins, Shaun Edwards and now maybe JH, shows that the UK game is a weakling in comparison to high level RU and NRL so we all really need to be a little more concerned about our sports inability to sell its virtues or to pay a fair salary for high profile stars.

I was fuming at what Cas had to go through with that merchant Solomona, i was embarrassed it what Edwards put us through and now i am dreading that another mid level NRL "Star" could walk out on a contract without playing a single game.

UK game is a mess at the moment and it will take more than SBW signing for a trillion dollars to convince me that we are in good health

That's one perspective; another is that for 2020 SL has acquired arguably the biggest name in world rugby in SBW and the NSW starting half. That's never happened in history. Johns was signed brieflyby Wire, but the Maloney signing is somewhat different. Wire have also signed Gaz Widdop, an NRL starter who play with and against a whole host of top talent from the likes of Blake Austin and George Burgess who has been a regular in the NRL as is still yet to reach his prime in terms of age.
Watkins was/is a spent force, Leeds didn't want Kalum Watkins, that's what kick-started his move.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:45 pm  

He only signed for us as Salford told him (at the time) they couldn't afford to keep him next year, Leeds wouldn't pay him as much as he was demanding and no Sydney NRL clubs were interested...we come along and offer him stupid money and a pass to leave after one year! I was reliably told he was absolutely fuming when we announced his signing, apparently part of the deal was that he didn't want anything at all announcing until the absolute end of the season and that is why he is categorically refusing to acknowledge Wigan. Wouldn't surprise me if we never see him in a Wigan shirt. Said all along we should have snapped up Maloney when we had the chance!

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:48 pm  

I don’t know what to make of this. It has been said publicly that he has a NRL release clause after his first year, not now.

This is a rumour that keeps coming back. Whether there is any substance or whether it is journalists who have nothing to write about I don’t know. I have a bad feeling about it though.

One thing is for sure, if he doesn’t want to be here I don’t want him here. I just wish he would come out and say either way.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:49 pm  

RichieS wrote:

He only signed for us as Salford told him (at the time) they couldn't afford to keep him next year, Leeds wouldn't pay him as much as he was demanding and no Sydney NRL clubs were interested...we come along and offer him stupid money and a pass to leave after one year! I was reliably told he was absolutely fuming when we announced his signing, apparently part of the deal was that he didn't want anything at all announcing until the absolute end of the season and that is why he is categorically refusing to acknowledge Wigan. Wouldn't surprise me if we never see him in a Wigan shirt. Said all along we should have snapped up Maloney when we had the chance!

If that’s true it’s poor form from IL. He should have respected that.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:53 pm  

Trainman wrote:

If that’s true it’s poor form from IL. He should have respected that.

IL was panicking last year, he had to do something major to keep the fans happy.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:08 pm  

Never simple at Wigan at the moment is it? Whether its owners, coaches or players why can't they just say what they mean and mean what they say?

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:26 pm  

Trainman wrote:

If that’s true it’s poor form from IL. He should have respected that.

How in a million years do you pin this on IL?

Signings for the next year are always announced when they are completed. If Hastings wants to be a bit of a diva then that's on him, but IL has a business to run and shouldn't be dictated to by things such as this.

Maloney, Widdop, Burgess all got announced when they signed on the dotted line & are all significantly more high profile than Hastings too. Hell Maloney was in the middle of a SOO campaign at the time!

There's simply only one man to blame for this whole situation - Hastings.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:01 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

How in a million years do you pin this on IL?

Signings for the next year are always announced when they are completed. If Hastings wants to be a bit of a diva then that's on him, but IL has a business to run and shouldn't be dictated to by things such as this.

Maloney, Widdop, Burgess all got announced when they signed on the dotted line & are all significantly more high profile than Hastings too. Hell Maloney was in the middle of a SOO campaign at the time!

There's simply only one man to blame for this whole situation - Hastings.

Got to agree on this here - despite Hastings' good season last year, G Burgess is a much more impressive signing from a reputation standpoint, yet he doesn't seem to be as much of a diva (if what Richie is saying is true). Although we are in desperate need of a good quality half back, so there lies our problem.

I'm remaining cautiously optimistic here. I previously had the impression that Hardaker didn't really want to be at Wigan either as he never mentioned Wigan or enjoying playing here. After a while he seemed to really warm to the idea and was more publicly enjoying his time at Wigan.

That said, whatever happens, I can't help but feel that we will need to be replacing Hastings by this time next year in the absolute best case scenario.

Re: Jackson Hastings-U turn... : Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:11 pm  

Think we're getting well ahead of ourselves here. I'm fairly sure we often allow overseas players an extended off season, the club have rubbished the rumours, that's plenty for me. I'm expecting him to do one season then head home.