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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:56 pm  
Plenty to come from Sarginson IMO. It's never easy early in the year in poor conditions to be a creative centre but I expect that side of his game to improve as we hit the warmer months. His workrate in attack and defence certainly can't be questioned. I'm not convinced he's ready for an NRL move yet but I do see him as the type who will thrive on bigger occasions.

He seems to have had a lot of stick this week on social media with his ability to play in the NRL questioned but I think he's a good player. We shouldn't forget he's feeling his way back in after a long injury as well.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:49 pm  
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Plenty to come from Sarginson IMO. It's never easy early in the year in poor conditions to be a creative centre but I expect that side of his game to improve as we hit the warmer months. His workrate in attack and defence certainly can't be questioned. I'm not convinced he's ready for an NRL move yet but I do see him as the type who will thrive on bigger occasions.

He seems to have had a lot of stick this week on social media with his ability to play in the NRL questioned but I think he's a good player. We shouldn't forget he's feeling his way back in after a long injury as well.


Generally I don't disagree, but I get so fed up with the same players being linked over and over again with moves to other clubs.

It really does put a questionmark against that player's loyalty in my book, because a lot of these rumours are wishful thinking or "come-and-get-me" messages, and they either stem from the players themselves or from the agents (with the players' approval).

I understand that players have a short career, need to look after themselves and their families etc. But by the same token, players who want to leave should understand in return that we are Wigan fans first and foremost and so reserve the right to be critical of personnel who don't look like they're nailed to the mast.

At present, I find it hard to think of a Wigan player less suited to the NRL than Dan Sarginson. What on Earth has he done in recent years that would attract clubs of that calibre? I wouldn't be at all surprised if this story is utter piffle.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:30 pm  
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Wigan were in a tricky situation with Mellor. Everyone was hoping him and Sam would be our future 6&7 for years to come when they played in the academy.

Mellor was untouchable in his age group but then he had the serious injury (think it was leg break and knee damage) and he naturally took some time to get playing anywhere near where he was before.

He was at an age there were he was ready for First team but at that time we had strong settled halves in Finch and Tommy and he had to make his mind up. Obviously, his home town club Widnes came along and he hasn't looked back.

I for one am pleased he's finally showing the class his early potential indicated. I'd take him back in a heart beat but think he is pretty happy at Widnes and is star man along with Brown


Mellor is from Warrington. Maguire wanted experienced halfbacks, and so Mellor was sent out on loan. About the same time the U23's was abandoned so he had nowhere to play after he had broken his kneecap. It's took him four or five years to come back to something like the form which he promised as a youngster, I don't think any club would have waited considering the academy age set up. I have always maintained that Kevin Brown was the one player we have let go from that group (Aspinwall, Wild, Robinson, Tickle etc) that we should have kept. Again we tried to go with two young halfbacks, and it didn't work.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:55 pm  
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Mellor is from Warrington. Maguire wanted experienced halfbacks, and so Mellor was sent out on loan. About the same time the U23's was abandoned so he had nowhere to play after he had broken his kneecap. It's took him four or five years to come back to something like the form which he promised as a youngster, I don't think any club would have waited considering the academy age set up. I have always maintained that Kevin Brown was the one player we have let go from that group (Aspinwall, Wild, Robinson, Tickle etc) that we should have kept. Again we tried to go with two young halfbacks, and it didn't work.


My mistake, I thought he was a Widnes lad. That's what I was saying - when he came back, we had Finch & Tommy i.e. experienced halves. Mellor did take some time to get to his current high level but there were constant glimpses of that talent there in our academy before his injury, even more so than the likes of Hampshire, Shorrocks etc. who are lauded on here.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:06 pm  
I went to a Q and A with Michael Maguire at Haigh Hall about 4 months in to his time at Wigan and he felt awful about Joe Mellors injury. You could tell he rated him but he'd smashed his knee wrestling in training and it was the end for him really. He hasn't got the pace he once had but he's making the best of his ability and is learning to do other things better then he could before.

They've got a really good pairing at Widnes at the minute.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:34 am  
Rogues, you seen much of Joe Lumb?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:40 am  
Mellor reminds me of Nathan Wood, very similar styles of play, him and Brown have an almost symbiotic understanding of each other's game.

Can't believe that both Wigan AND Huddersfield let Brown go, it's like having a coach on the field, he's constantly scanning and testing and adapting through games. I rate Brown a lot and he definitely deserves an England call up.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:46 am  
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Rogues, you seen much of Joe Lumb?



No, is he the lad from Bradford?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:59 am  
Yes, just broke into the side at hooker as a teenager, very demanding position for a young lad, I know you catch the young un's just wondered if you'd seen much of him.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:48 pm  
Cruncher wrote:
I don’t approve of the apparent St Helens policy routinely signing a bunch of Aussies each season.


Wigan signed as many Aussies for 2016 as Saints did.
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