Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:40 pm  

Geoff wrote:

To be fair, I think Lenagan and Rads are still out of the country. Bit unfair having a disciplinary hearing via Skype...

Nothing at all wrong with that and Wane could have said as much in his press conference.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:14 pm  

It's utterly bizarre that Wane and Lenagan always make out that Wane does a lot of day to day running of the club and knows the players inside out then when he's asked simple questions during press conferences he acts dumb and like he doesn't know what's going on. WE ARE NOT IDIOTS SHAUN. Picking injured/suspended players in the squad and not openly talking about injuries is small time and those days of mind games are gone.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:30 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

It's utterly bizarre that Wane and Lenagan always make out that Wane does a lot of day to day running of the club and knows the players inside out then when he's asked simple questions during press conferences he acts dumb and like he doesn't know what's going on. WE ARE NOT IDIOTS SHAUN. Picking injured/suspended players in the squad and not openly talking about injuries is small time and those days of mind games are gone.

I don't really understand the cause of your annoyance.

Surely you don't believe that when the chairman is away, the coach should take it on himself to make statements about the futures of certain players at the club, especially when those futures might not yet have been decided because there might be legalities involved, etc?

I'm always bewildered by this 'we need an announcement' attitude among Wigan fans. Surely crises like this should be managed professionally and preferably in-house, not at press conferences in the eyes of the whole world?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:54 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

I don't really understand the cause of your annoyance.

Surely you don't believe that when the chairman is away, the coach should take it on himself to make statements about the futures of certain players at the club, especially when those futures might not yet have been decided because there might be legalities involved, etc?

I'm always bewildered by this 'we need an announcement' attitude among Wigan fans. Surely crises like this should be managed professionally and preferably in-house, not at press conferences in the eyes of the whole world?

At the same time I don't need professional rugby players to be my moral compass so there is no crisis. If Bateman did everything he's accused of it wouldn't stop me cheering him scoring the winner in the GF.

IMO if he's not been charged then it's what's best for the club and imo that's letting Bateman play.

Shallow? Maybe but not as shallow as having a rugby player as an idol

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:59 pm  

I guess Wane will decide if he wants him in the squad anymore but it'll be Lenagan who decides either the punishment or how we cut ties with him shouid they want to do so. I'd be stunned if such a good player was sacked especially when it looks like no police action will be taken. The club could still command a decent fee for him if it came down to it.

As things stand I'm speculating though and I'm happy enough to await something official. As pointed out if Lenagan and Radlinski have been out of the country is difficult for them to get their heads together with the coach, players and anybody else who've been involved so we may be waiting a while yet.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:18 pm  

But if we do sell him who loses out?

Bateman- continues his RL career at another club. A talent like his doesn't diminishes he's that good. A wire, Leeds or Saints would snap him up imo.

His new club- payed a reduced amount for a great player.

Wigan - sells one of its best players and gets a lump of money it can't spend as transfers are useless apart from in exceptionally circumstances.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:29 am  

Cruncher wrote:

I don't really understand the cause of your annoyance.

Surely you don't believe that when the chairman is away, the coach should take it on himself to make statements about the futures of certain players at the club, especially when those futures might not yet have been decided because there might be legalities involved, etc?

I'm always bewildered by this 'we need an announcement' attitude among Wigan fans. Surely crises like this should be managed professionally and preferably in-house, not at press conferences in the eyes of the whole world?

We don't need him to make a statement or tell us exactly what's going on, he just needs to stop pulling the wool over our eyes. And I'm not just talking about the Bateman issue specifically, he's done it plenty of times before.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:01 am  

Wigg'n wrote:

We don't need him to make a statement or tell us exactly what's going on, he just needs to stop pulling the wool over our eyes. And I'm not just talking about the Bateman issue specifically, he's done it plenty of times before.

I share your desire to know what's going on, but it doesn't surprise me that Wane, who's an employee at Wigan like many others, doesn't take it on himself to publicise stuff that might be deemed sensitive, especially when the boss is away.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:18 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

But if we do sell him who loses out?

Bateman- continues his RL career at another club. A talent like his doesn't diminishes he's that good. A wire, Leeds or Saints would snap him up imo.

His new club- payed a reduced amount for a great player.

Wigan - sells one of its best players and gets a lump of money it can't spend as transfers are useless apart from in exceptionally circumstances.

It would be gutting to lose him but if it's that serious that the coach/players don't want him to be part of the squad there will be little option. If him being at the club creates a poor atmosphere it won't matter how good he is.

Again it's pure speculation. We don't even know what's gone on yet.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:34 am  

Anyone know if he is still training with the first team?