: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:11 pm  

p1e e8ter wrote:

O'Loughlin is not creative enough for a 13, yes he tries hard but the skill isn't there. Compare him to P Sculthorpe and K Sinfield, these 2 could create a try on their own. I don't know about you, but when O'Loughlin gets the ball I don't think - Oh we could score here - it's more on the terms - Oh please don't cock up in some way.

That might be a little harsh, but O'Loughlin is not creative. A hard runner maybe, like Langley, with good upper-body strength.

You could argue he's a decent kicker maybe, but not consistently.

He's a 12, same with Tomkins IMO. Yes he scores too, but he doesn't have the ball-in-hand skills you need. These days a 13 is just a 6 with more muscle.

i think oloughlin is creative.he was involved in 3 tries on saturday.if thats not a creative player i dont know what is.i think oloughlin gets a raw deal on this forum.hes a better player than people give him credit for.people say all he does is tackle like its a bad thing.defense wins you games.his attacking play is also v good it just seems people like to highlight his mistakes and disregard his good work.

Re: Your team for Bradford : Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:18 am  

injured wrote:

i dont agree.i think oloughlin has been one of wigans most creative players so far this season.surely its better to have one of the teams better ball distributors at loose and have a strong running second row like joel running off him and the halves.

could u bum joel abit more? hahaha

Re: Your team for Bradford : Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:45 am  

injured wrote:

i dont agree.i think oloughlin has been one of wigans most creative players so far this season.surely its better to have one of the teams better ball distributors at loose and have a strong running second row like joel running off him and the halves.

I rate O'Loughlin highly, and if I remember rightly he had a hand in Ainscough's 1st try from a second row position?
I don't believe Joel's strength lies necessarily in 'strong' running, more the gaps that he spots and takes advantage of with the angles that he runs.

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:56 am  

Richards
Roberts
Bailey
Carmont
Ainscough
Smith
Tommy
Fielden
Riddell
O'Carroll
Hansen
J Tomkins
O'Loughlin

S Tomkins
Hock
Feka
Pryce

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:33 am  

Ashton Warrior wrote:

Richards
Roberts
Bailey
Carmont
Ainscough
Smith
Tommy
Fielden
Riddell
O'Carroll
Hansen
J Tomkins
O'Loughlin

S Tomkins
Hock
Feka
Pryce - Not match fit so I doubt it. And 1 prop on the bench? Coley will probably be this sub, and Prescott at a push

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:31 am  

1.Paaat
2.Roberts
3.Bailey
4.Carmont
5.Ainscough
6.Timmy
7.Tommy
8.Fielden
9.Riddell
10.Prescott
11.Hock
12.Hansen
13.Locky

14.Feka
15.O Carroll
16.Joel
17.Sam

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:56 am  

Personally think Hock is miles better off the bench bill. 'Ommering the big lazy Bradford forwards when he comes on

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:19 pm  

Meyt N Prater Pie wrote:

Personally think Hock is miles better off the bench bill. 'Ommering the big lazy Bradford forwards when he comes on

No chance, hes needs be starting IMO. If hes going to continue to develop into the player we want he wont do it being a Feka-esk impact player.

: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:29 pm  

Bill_Barlow wrote:

1.Paaat
2.Roberts
3.Bailey
4.Carmont
5.Ainscough
6.Timmy
7.Tommy
8.Fielden
9.Riddell
10.Prescott
11.Hock
12.Hansen
13.Locky

14.Feka
15.O Carroll
16.Joel
17.Sam

This is what i would put out only a couple of changes to that line up
1.Pat
2.Roberts
3.Bailey
4.Carmont
5.Ainscough
6.Smith
7.Tommy
8.Fielden
9.Riddell
10.Prescott
11.Locky
12.Hansen
13.J Tomkins

14.Feka
15.O Carroll
16.Hock
17.Sam

Think Hock offers more impact off the bench and Offers a bit more in defense in the second row Joel is a better support player
Then in the interchanges i would put Smith to 7 Tommy to 9 and Sam to 6