Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 04, 2022 9:22 pm  

I wonder what George is thinking right now.
After Wire and his performance last night then watching Wigan this afternoon.
One thing he will know is that Waney is looking for a 7 for the World Cup.
George will know how his form is going and he will see how Harry Smith's form is.
MOM v Wire, MOM in the Semi and not very far off MOM in the Cup final.
IMO Harry is the form 7 in SL right now, certainly the best British scrum half.
All that will have gone through George's mind this past few weeks..

Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 04, 2022 9:23 pm  

I wonder what George is thinking right now.
After Wire and his performance last night then watching Wigan this afternoon.
One thing he will know is that Waney is looking for a 7 for the World Cup.
George will know how his form is going and he will see how Harry Smith's form is.
MOM v Wire, MOM in the Semi and not very far off MOM in the Cup final.
IMO Harry is the form 7 in SL right now, certainly the best British scrum half.
All that will have gone through George's mind this past few weeks..

Re: George Williams : Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:42 pm  

I would tend to agree that Smith is the form 7 in the SL. But, up against the Aussies? Gale looks past it, though, Williams is struggling in a poor side, Who else is there? Back to Lomax and Widdop?

Re: George Williams : Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:10 am  

moto748 wrote:

I would tend to agree that Smith is the form 7 in the SL. But, up against the Aussies? Gale looks past it, though, Williams is struggling in a poor side, Who else is there? Back to Lomax and Widdop?

How about Jackson Hastings

Re: George Williams : Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:55 am  

hatty wrote:

How about Jackson Hastings

How about him?

Re: George Williams : Sun Jun 05, 2022 6:39 pm  

Not for me. Call me old fashioned but unless you have serious English credentials then you shouldn't be considered for selection. If we aren't good enough to beat Australia then im sorry but we just aint good enough. Hastings is as Australian as Michael Parkinson is a Yorkshireman, I am a bit bored of these things they find to qualify for eligibility. His nans Australian dog once chased an English cat blah blah blah. No ta. Morgan Knowles should be excluded too as should any player who plays for another country at senior level. You can't be Welsh one week and then English the week after. Harry Smith is the form half in this country right now and there is nobody close to him. Right now in June he is one name on the sheet. Who he should partner is still up for grabs. Pryce was putting his name in before suspension and Dodd was playing well too. I am a firm believer in picking the players in form regardless of experience. England football teams did this for years and got nowhere. Southgate has given the young in form players a chance and they have flourished (not that im interested mind)

Re: George Williams : Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:03 pm  

Pie_Eyter wrote:

Not for me. Call me old fashioned but unless you have serious English credentials then you shouldn't be considered for selection. If we aren't good enough to beat Australia then im sorry but we just aint good enough. Hastings is as Australian as Michael Parkinson is a Yorkshireman, I am a bit bored of these things they find to qualify for eligibility. His nans Australian dog once chased an English cat blah blah blah. No ta. Morgan Knowles should be excluded too as should any player who plays for another country at senior level. You can't be Welsh one week and then English the week after. Harry Smith is the form half in this country right now and there is nobody close to him. Right now in June he is one name on the sheet. Who he should partner is still up for grabs. Pryce was putting his name in before suspension and Dodd was playing well too. I am a firm believer in picking the players in form regardless of experience. England football teams did this for years and got nowhere. Southgate has given the young in form players a chance and they have flourished (not that im interested mind)

Australia beat us for years flaunting these rules

Re: George Williams : Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:10 pm  

I’d probably look at Tomkins in the halves and Welsby at 1.

Solves the problem of accommodating them both, it’s not ideal though.

Re: George Williams : Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:28 pm  

People don't complain (much) when half the England cricket and rugby union teams are Saffies or other foreigners.

I don't see why we need set ourselves higher standards than them.

Re: George Williams : Sun Jun 05, 2022 7:46 pm  

I have no issue with heritage players but only on the basis that they’re absolutely committed and we get none of this ‘I’ll consider it’ boll*cks. Victor Radley didn’t rule it out but he also didn’t rule it in, so that’s an absolute no for me.

IIRC Hastings himself in a recent interview was much the same, on the basis that he might get a NSW call up. Again if it’s a second choice then it’s a no and we move on. I’m not convinced he’ll be a chance under Wane anyway. There seems to be no feeling whatsoever for Wigan from Hastings. He gave his all when he played but something clearly wasn’t right. It’s still tumbleweed on his social media waiting for him to congratulate his ‘mates’ on winning the cup. I get this may be something he can do in private but he isn’t that guy, he is a social media obsessive by the looks of things. Salford could win a comp on the back of a Kellogg’s box and he’d be all over it. I can’t help wonder if he has issues with Peet? Maybe Peets comments that we haven’t signed the right type of characters in recent years cut deep.

If they’re available I’d go Welsby, Tomkins and Lomax at 1,6 and 7 in a couple of weeks. I’d imagine Saints will pick up a few injuries in their next game though.