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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"Pat Richards left in 2013 and it's 2018 in less than 3 weeks how long do you need to find a replacement? It's either complacency or ineptness I will leave you to decide.
I am a big fan of ST but cameos once or twice a year are an insufficient payback for his payroll cost. Personally I would give him the captaincy in the hope that he of mature years now and he can kick on again and place his stamp on the style of game we play.
By the way the negativity is driven by the club with it's pretty useless performances on and off the pitch. Give the fans something to talk about, something to look forward to (NOT the game in Australia) and give us back a bit of pride back by playing something closely related to RL rather than the prissy, turgid shoite they have rolled out for the past 3 years then the negativity will decrease.
By the way not for one moment did I expect a major overhaul this season (it will in 2019 though) but ye gods Sarginson coming back after a year on the lash in Australia isn't what I expected either.
A Happy Christmas to you Bigred and your family
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You haven’t answered my question mate. Who do you consider a realistic target who is better than one of our starting 13 who can kick goals? I’m not happy with our kick success rate but I’m happy the club have made an effort to address it and I’d rather have Hodgson in than a weaker player just because they can kick.
In regards to ST, it’s unfair to refer to one or 2 cameo appearances when he played every game since returning from injuries last season. I suspect nobody at the club realised the extent of his injuries when he was brought back as a marquee player and I don’t think it’s right to judge him yet. Let’s see how he goes after his 1st pre-season in 9 years and then judge him. I wouldn’t make him captain until Lockers calls it a day but he’d be my choice as his successor.
I also agree that the standard of RL over the last few years hasn’t been great but I do see some mitigation but that’s been done to death on here. I honestly believe we have a very strong squad and with a bit more luck with injuries we’ll be there or there abouts again next season. Let’s not lose sight of the fact that we won the GF in 2016 and are currently world club champions who reached Wembley in 2017. No it’s not good enough but only because we’ve been spoiled over the years.
Merry Christmas to you and yours matey!
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| Regarding the captaincy - what about Farrell? Doesn't show the same petulance as S.Tomkins, don't think I ever remember him having a bad season, has stayed committed to the club rather than jumping ship. Won loads of medals with us. He would be my choice. Sam has enough pressure on him, and I'm not convinced his temperament is suited to it. I've got a horrible feeling Wane will give it to McIlorum
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| Quote RichieS="RichieS"Your obviously far better informed than myself then. I shall leave the facts to quieten you down when squad numbers are released.'"
You are a good poster Richie but on this occasion you have been miss-informed. I will wager you any amount you like Gelling isn't coming back. In fact i would bet you all the tea in China that Sarginson IS Gelling's replacement.
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| one more potential incoming. A World Cup player who did very well. It would certainly appease the fans. I cant say any more at this point but watch this space 
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| Quote Cherry_Warrior="Cherry_Warrior"You are a good poster Richie but on this occasion you have been miss-informed. I will wager you any amount you like Gelling isn't coming back. In fact i would bet you all the tea in China that Sarginson IS Gelling's replacement.'"
Not a huge fan of tea, so lets say all the coffee in Colombia and your on
I wasn't misinformed by anyone, it's my job to sort his supplementation and given the fact only 4-days ago we discussed his requirements with no talk of shipping to New Zealand  I was simply relaying my opinion he will be with us next year.
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| Quote RichieS="RichieS"Not a huge fan of tea, so lets say all the coffee in Colombia and your on
I wasn't misinformed by anyone, it's my job to sort his supplementation and given the fact only 4-days ago we discussed his requirements with no talk of shipping to New Zealand
I was simply relaying my opinion he will be with us next year.'"
I hope you have a BIG coffee jar to send to C_W. He's gone.
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| Quote RichieS="RichieS"Not a huge fan of tea, so lets say all the coffee in Colombia and your on
I wasn't misinformed by anyone, it's my job to sort his supplementation and given the fact only 4-days ago we discussed his requirements with no talk of shipping to New Zealand
I was simply relaying my opinion he will be with us next year.'"
I would have arranged the bet before divulging that info  I hope you're right, Sarginson is a great signing if he has been bought as a utility, though I think we would have been better using the cap space on a Scrum half or Prop.
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| He has indeed gone. Im not one to gloat or reveal my sources but i could, COULD be wrong about Sarginson being his direct replacement because the World Cup player i was on about in an earlier post is also a centre. That would put Sarge 3rd choice centre or 2nd choice full back assuming Sam is going to 6. If all this happens then i will hold my hands up and say i was wrong about the Sarginson signing because as a back up he is a lot better than what we have.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"I would have arranged the bet before divulging that info
I hope you're right, Sarginson is a great signing if he has been bought as a utility, though I think we would have been better using the cap space on a Scrum half or Prop.'"
Problem is though Grimmy Richie rightly so, knew 4 days ago (at that point) he was staying but i knew 2 days ago that he wasn't. Its like going all in with a straight flush against a royal flush. i couldn't lose 
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| Just posted what i'd been told RichieS
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I hope you have a BIG coffee jar to send to C_W. He's gone.'"
Not ignoring you Rogues I can see I have a message from you however I can’t open it, assuming it is regarding Gelling.
I’ve heard from a couple of different sources he is gone no reason to doubt any.
Sad to see him go to be honest as in a dull few years he has at least provided the odd moment of entertainment.
I expect we will be playing a very different style of rugby next year one in which he would have thrived but it’s not to be.
We have a squad capable of winning trophies regardless IF as I expect we will change our style.
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