Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:49 am  

The Mustard Tiger wrote:

Why, because he put in a half decent performance, let's see how long he can keep it up

When you're in a hole - stop digging!

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:42 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

When you're in a hole - stop digging!

I take it you are a Lockers super fan , Lockers is nowhere near the player he was last season, Sculthorpe at Saints springs to mind

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:49 pm  

The Mustard Tiger wrote:

I take it you are a Lockers super fan , Lockers is nowhere near the player he was last season, Sculthorpe at Saints springs to mind

You don't get it do you? Lockers might not be as good as he was - but he's still better than anyone else we've got, and still good enough for Super League. So why the hell do you want him to retire?

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:23 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

You don't get it do you? Lockers might not be as good as he was - but he's still better than anyone else we've got, and still good enough for Super League. So why the hell do you want him to retire?

Plenty of fans saying it, not just me, remove your tinted glasses and you will see

Re: Our "forwards" : Fri Jul 10, 2015 1:53 pm  

DP_wwrlfc wrote:

I imagine the poster who labelled O'Loughlin as finished and too stubborn to retire is feeling pretty silly after his performance last night.

He didn't play huge minutes but his effect on the team was clear for all to see. He seemed to make more yards than any other forward including the props. If it wasn't for Sarginson not passing to Burgess he would have also created a try from a lovely pass which is typical Sean O'Loughlin.

I agree we could do with another prop. I'm unsure of everyone who is off contract in the NRL but I think Sam Tagatese and Suaia Matagi both are and could be worth a shot. Matagi was impressive for Samoa in the Workd Cup.

Should have gone for Frank The Tank!

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Our "forwards" : Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:22 pm  

I hope Wane shows them the game from last month to embarrass a performance out of our forwards this week. One of the most cowardly performances I've seen from a set of forwards for a very long time - letting Ashton Sims play Billy Big Balls was pitiful.

I also hope Williams points out the fact that not one forward did anything to Sims after his cowardly punch.

Forget Pie Smash, the only thing being smashed this week should be Sims.

Re: Our "forwards" : Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:23 am  

Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy wrote:

I hope Wane shows them the game from last month to embarrass a performance out of our forwards this week. One of the most cowardly performances I've seen from a set of forwards for a very long time - letting Ashton Sims play Billy Balls was pitiful.

I also hope Williams points out the fact that not one forward did anything to Sims after his cowardly punch.

Forget Pie Smash, the only thing being smashed this week should be Sims.

We don't have it in us anymore (down to the Flower incident IMO).

Wire fans are worried they don't have much aggression in their pack but minus Micky Mac ours will simply roll over and get its belly tickled.

Re: Our "forwards" : Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:09 am  

Whilst our props may be poor, although I'd say Flower and Clubb are adequate, the pack has performed well. How else do you explain being second in the table? (Above the 'wonderful' Saints pack).

Wire have a good pack but no half backs. Even more fundamental than props. When they clicked they did for Leeds twice, just like us.

I'm expecting a win on Friday. Powell has done well recently. No worries about him at all.

Re: Our "forwards" : Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:02 am  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

Whilst our props may be poor, although I'd say Flower and Clubb are adequate, the pack has performed well. How else do you explain being second in the table? (Above the 'wonderful' Saints pack).

Wire have a good pack but no half backs. Even more fundamental than props. When they clicked they did for Leeds twice, just like us.

I'm expecting a win on Friday. Powell has done well recently. No worries about him at all.

Im not attacking your posts on purpose I promise

Agree with what you are saying but at the same time we are 2nd from a pool of teams that doesn't have much class to it. It's all relative I.e you can only play what's in front of you but what happened to wanting to be more than just the best in the league?

FWIW looking at it from a SL perspective I don't think we need a major overhaul to be the top side again. Leeds were in a similar position during our double season and they've made massive improvements since then with only a small number of changes/additions.

At the same time I can see why there's a lot of frustration out there. Some of the players might be good enough for SL but in the grand scheme of things they aren't that good. Wigan fans aren't fools they've seen truly great players and teams and they know this crop isn't a vintage one

Re: Our "forwards" : Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:40 am  

No problem. It'd be a strange old world if everyone agreed with me!

I often wonder just how much we have missed Sam. We were treated to some individual brilliance in practically every game he played for us, often winning games from nowhere. I think in a winning team based around Sam, Lockers, Bateman, Faz, Joel, MMc, Williams, Gelling and Josh that some of the more ordinary players start to look decent.

Leeds carried the likes of Bailey and Kirke for years after all. I would like to see a top class prop (wouldn't we all?) but I'm hoping that Sam will have us on the edge of our seats again. Great players are few and far between, but they make all the difference.