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Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:17 pm  
Cooper, Ellis for a solid start, Byrne, Havard, Mago for some oomph off the bench, Singleton's suspension could cost him big time
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Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:21 pm  
I’d want yards from the start and yards from the bench. I rate Byrne highly but he’s more of an all round package, then a guy whose going to put big numbers up. He’d make my 17 but from the bench (against Saints in particular I’d have him in a role of getting after Paasi when he comes on). I’d start Cooper and probably Ellis and then you have a good blend on the bench of impact and good yardage via Byrne, Havard and Mago. I still honestly think Singleton will get in our starting 13 though when available. It might not be my choice but my choice is worthless and he’s had a pretty good year up to now and I think he’s trusted massively by the coaching staff.
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Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:28 pm  
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A real boost for our chances this season. We need more ground around the middle, especially against Saints and he can hopefully provide that. As much as his Wigan career fizzled out, I remember the boost Frank Paul Nuaausala gave us in 2016 and hopefully Cooper can do the same. He made his debut away at Leeds as well funnily enough (that pretty much confirms our Grand Final 2022 win).


I'm sure we lost that Leeds game. :SHHH:
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Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:30 pm  
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I’d want yards from the start and yards from the bench. I rate Byrne highly but he’s more of an all round package, then a guy whose going to put big numbers up. He’d make my 17 but from the bench (against Saints in particular I’d have him in a role of getting after Paasi when he comes on). I’d start Cooper and probably Ellis and then you have a good blend on the bench of impact and good yardage via Byrne, Havard and Mago. I still honestly think Singleton will get in our starting 13 though when available. It might not be my choice but my choice is worthless and he’s had a pretty good year up to now and I think he’s trusted massively by the coaching staff.

I like Byrne as a starter specifically because he is an all round package and is becoming very solid with few errors/penalties etc. Would he be as effective off the bench? Worth a look I guess but I feel you're looking for impact more from a bench prop.

I think you're right regarding Singleton and, to be fair, he has been good by and large this year. That said we need to be preparing for the playoffs and possibly final and the pack most likely to be successful there should be first choice and I don't think that includes Singleton who hasn't shown up so far against Saints.
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Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:32 pm  
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Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:37 pm  
Egg Chasing wrote:
We're gonna win the league

Said from day one with Peet in charge we would win-
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MOS (Cust) hopefully will be Field now

Predictions coming along nicely now
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Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:44 pm  
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he’s had a pretty good year up to now and I think he’s trusted massively by the coaching staff.


I keep reading this, but I've not seen it at all? What are we basing it off? He's averaging the least amount per carry of all of our props and you can throw in a few stupid suspensions too.

He's been an absolute bust signing imo.
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Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:50 pm  
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I like Byrne as a starter specifically because he is an all round package and is becoming very solid with few errors/penalties etc. Would he be as effective off the bench? Worth a look I guess but I feel you're looking for impact more from a bench prop.

I think you're right regarding Singleton and, to be fair, he has been good by and large this year. That said we need to be preparing for the playoffs and possibly final and the pack most likely to be successful there should be first choice and I don't think that includes Singleton who hasn't shown up so far against Saints.


I don’t mind Byrne from the bench and I do think he adds impact but more from a defensive view point. I love his intent on both sides of the ball. I rate Havard really highly but I feel him and Mago from the bench are maybe a bit ‘nice’ in defence and I’d use Byrne alongside either to set a tone and keep our defence getting off the line. It’s why I mentioned specifically putting him on when Paasi comes on against us (or impact players of that type). He battered us on Good Friday as our intensity dropped.

It’s great to have so many options anyway.
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Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:54 pm  
A top class signing is Mike Cooper. Whatever has gone on at Warrington I don't know but Wigan RL will and they've acted quickly to bring MC in now. No doubt Lee Briers will have been influential in this.
Looking forward to seeing him play.
We've a really terrific front row now.
Can see Singleton only getting his place back due to injury or suspension.
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Re: Mike Cooper : Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:00 pm  
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I keep reading this, but I've not seen it at all? What are we basing it off? He's averaging the least amount per carry of all of our props and you can throw in a few stupid suspensions too.

He's been an absolute bust signing imo.


He’s had a few games this season running above 100m, his defence is good, his errors and penalties are low. He’s been pretty good IMO. That isn’t me saying he’s make my side now because he probably wouldn’t but he’s not having a bad season by any stretch. I’d agree he’s had a couple of bans and that’s not ideal but we’ve debated the merits of one for days.

I don’t have him as a bad signing at all but I do think we can improve on him now Cooper is here and the young lads have developed a pace.
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