: Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:24 pm  

lol@people complaining about Offiah and Clarke.

if you want to complain, complain about Ashton and Eastmond

: Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:50 pm  

Marcus Jones wrote:

lol@people complaining about Offiah and Clarke.

if you want to complain, complain about Ashton and Eastmond

I take it you weren't online around the time Ashton was defecting?

: Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:50 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Michael Worrincy is officially the most mentioned sportsman on Sky Sports News for 2009 so far

David Beckham is lagging 2,537 mentions behind and Wayne Rooney is 1,450 behind. Tiger Woods is making a late charge but is still a whopping 5,550 behind.

not any more old cock hes just about level after this week

: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:05 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

I agree, but it's inevitable that RL folk will resent it when someone like Offiah - who owes everything he has to RL - starts looking to send RL players to RU.

Sure, it's all about money. But British RL can ill-afford to lose any more players, particularly from its star ranks, which are threadbare as it is. People like Offiah and Andy Clarke expect us to understand that they must get the best deal possible for their clients. In turn, they must understand why we hate them for deliberately weakening our game.

As far as I'm aware they don't force the players to leave, they just provide them with the options out there.

Agents aren't forcing good young players to leave, it's clubs thinking they can take the p*ss with young players salaries and not paying them their worth which makes them want to leave.

: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:33 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

I take it you weren't online around the time Ashton was defecting?

So why are people like yourself having a pop at Clarke? Did he force Ashton to employ him?

The buck stops with the player, not the agent.

: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:57 pm  

Woody_woody wrote:

As far as I'm aware they don't force the players to leave, they just provide them with the options out there.

Agents aren't forcing good young players to leave, it's clubs thinking they can take the p*ss with young players salaries and not paying them their worth which makes them want to leave.

Spot on.

: Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:16 pm  

Marcus Jones wrote:

So why are people like yourself having a pop at Clarke? Did he force Ashton to employ him?

The buck stops with the player, not the agent.

Both players and agents want to make money. No problem there at all. They need to live.

But agents who advise their players to go to Union are still damaging RL. Sorry if this truth hurts them. But they can't have it both ways. If they send their players to Union - which many of them seek to do, because there is more money there - they are going to be disliked in League. End of.

For the record, those players who opt to go are guilty of the same thing. Though at the end of the day they are usually young men, or even lads, who are acting on the advice of their agents, who they see as mentors, father figures, etc. I had an agent, and I very rarely went against his advice.

So for me, the agents are slightly more guilty.

I can see why they do this. I understand it. But I still don't care. As a die-hard RL fan, I bitterly resent anyone, whatever their reason, who damages RL. Sorry, but that's all there is to it.

: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:59 am  

Cruncher wrote:

Both players and agents want to make money. No problem there at all. They need to live.

But agents who advise their players to go to Union are still damaging RL. Sorry if this truth hurts them. But they can't have it both ways. If they send their players to Union - which many of them seek to do, because there is more money there - they are going to be disliked in League. End of.

For the record, those players who opt to go are guilty of the same thing. Though at the end of the day they are usually young men, or even lads, who are acting on the advice of their agents, who they see as mentors, father figures, etc. I had an agent, and I very rarely went against his advice.

So for me, the agents are slightly more guilty.

I can see why they do this. I understand it. But I still don't care. As a die-hard RL fan, I bitterly resent anyone, whatever their reason, who damages RL. Sorry, but that's all there is to it.

very good point.I could not agree more

: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:43 am  

I see Greg Bird has joined the Titans, shame really as he was a great player to watch plus he's a big loss for the Catalans. http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -kdgo.html I wonder whether his departure will make room for Mason to join then now.

I see Greg Bird has joined the Titans, shame really as he was a great player to watch plus he's a big loss for the Catalans. http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -kdgo.html I wonder whether his departure will make room for Mason to join then now.

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: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:03 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote: I see Greg Bird has joined the Titans, shame really as he was a great player to watch plus he's a big loss for the Catalans. http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -kdgo.html I wonder whether his departure will make room for Mason to join then now. I hope so and I also hope I have the opportunity to see him get his ar5e handed to him at every opportunity.

LovesToSpooge wrote: I see Greg Bird has joined the Titans, shame really as he was a great player to watch plus he's a big loss for the Catalans. http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -kdgo.html I wonder whether his departure will make room for Mason to join then now. I hope so and I also hope I have the opportunity to see him get his ar5e handed to him at every opportunity.