O/Tish FIFA 6+5 ruling : Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:59 pm  

To encourage the development of home grown talent FIFA want to bring in this ruling where you have to have 6 players in the starting 11 that are eligible for the country of the team. So in the premiership it would be 6 english and 5 from anywere else. To blend it in they want to start it as:

4 + 7 in 2010/2011 season
5 + 6 in 2011/2012 season
then 6 + 5 in 2012/2013 season onwards.

I wish the RFL would introduce this instead of all the varying stipulations currently possible. Id love to see:

8 + 5 in 2010
9 + 4 in 2011
then 10 + 3 in 2012.

I think its the best way to develop home grown talent and im personally sick of seeing average overseas players in SL colors stopping the young lads coming through.


Thoughts................

Re: O/Tish FIFA 6+5 ruling : Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:05 pm  

Bill_Barlow wrote:

To encourage the development of home grown talent FIFA want to bring in this ruling where you have to have 6 players in the starting 11 that are eligible for the country of the team. So in the premiership it would be 6 english and 5 from anywere else. To blend it in they want to start it as:

4 + 7 in 2010/2011 season
5 + 6 in 2011/2012 season
then 6 + 5 in 2012/2013 season onwards.

I wish the RFL would introduce this instead of all the varying stipulations currently possible. Id love to see:

8 + 5 in 2010
9 + 4 in 2011
then 10 + 3 in 2012.

I think its the best way to develop home grown talent and im personally sick of seeing average overseas players in SL colors stopping the young lads coming through.


Thoughts................

My thoughts are that is a great idea.

Although something needs to be done with the cap also.

Re: O/Tish FIFA 6+5 ruling : Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:35 pm  

Bill_Barlow wrote:

To encourage the development of home grown talent FIFA want to bring in this ruling where you have to have 6 players in the starting 11 that are eligible for the country of the team. So in the premiership it would be 6 english and 5 from anywere else. To blend it in they want to start it as:

4 + 7 in 2010/2011 season
5 + 6 in 2011/2012 season
then 6 + 5 in 2012/2013 season onwards.

I wish the RFL would introduce this instead of all the varying stipulations currently possible. Id love to see:

8 + 5 in 2010
9 + 4 in 2011
then 10 + 3 in 2012.

I think its the best way to develop home grown talent and im personally sick of seeing average overseas players in SL colors stopping the young lads coming through.


Thoughts................

Does that mean that there is now no difference between Europeans and non Europeans?, and what about Scottish, Welsh and Irish players?, would they now be classed as foreign players in the Premier League?.

Re: O/Tish FIFA 6+5 ruling : Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:32 pm  

tiger2000 wrote:

Does that mean that there is now no difference between Europeans and non Europeans?, and what about Scottish, Welsh and Irish players?, would they now be classed as foreign players in the Premier League?.

English Premier League, yes. If they do not qualify for the England team then i would say so.

Re: O/Tish FIFA 6+5 ruling : Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:54 pm  

odemwingie wrote:

My thoughts are that is a great idea.

Although something needs to be done with the cap also.

I would like to see something done with cap to help teams keep their homegrown players. 1 idea would be for a player who comes up through a clubs academy set up, to say have say 20% of their salary excluded from the cap for the 1st 5 years that they are a 1st team squad member. Then say between 5 and 10 years at the club, they get 35% of their salary excluded from the cap, and then 10 years plus 50% of their salary excluded.
This would then encourage clubs to not only be pro active in developing their own players, but to also keep hold of the players they produce long term, and it would probably have the effect of reducing foreign players without the clubs being forced to cut foreigners and then look for loopholes to still bring them over.

rl : Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:36 pm  

The RFL have already done this with the club trained, federation trained and non federation trained.
Their figure of 8 club trained by 2011 is based on the squad of 25 not a starting 13 or match 17. I'd rather it be the latter.
Trouble is rule changes have to be agreed by the Super League club chairmen at their SL meetings. The club which would appear to benefit most from this at present would be Leeds. I can't see clubs like Cas, Wakey, Bradford & Hudds agreeing to anything which may give Leeds an even bigger advantage over them than they have already.
That's maybe why it's on the squad 25 than those who take the field matchday.

Re: O/Tish FIFA 6+5 ruling : Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:38 pm  

tiger2000 wrote:

Does that mean that there is now no difference between Europeans and non Europeans?, and what about Scottish, Welsh and Irish players?, would they now be classed as foreign players in the Premier League?.

Would that matter for us? Because our international team [for touring parties] is 'Great Britain. So irish, scottish and welsh players wouldn't count?

Also I believe there is a ruling from Brussels about members of the EU having their right to work in other EU member states taken away. Which could cause problems for FIFA

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:44 pm  

FIFA are on dodgy ground as under european law you cannot discriminate on the grounds of nationality for anyone who holds a passport from a eurpoean union nation.

The RFL introduced this home grown (ie from your acadamy) and federation trained as a way to get around this.

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:59 pm  

Eastbourne Warrior wrote:

FIFA are on dodgy ground as under european law you cannot discriminate on the grounds of nationality for anyone who holds a passport from a eurpoean union nation.

The RFL introduced this home grown (ie from your acadamy) and federation trained as a way to get around this.

FIFA have already checked this out and found it is lawful to impose this ruling.