: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:41 pm  

MattyB wrote:

: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:43 pm  

Bolton_Warrior wrote:

I am sure they would as well.

I know the likes of Liam Farrell would for starters. Mark Flanaghan played tonight and did ok but it was not easy for him to shine amongst the dog turd surrounding him.

As for Lee Mossop, well how the hell can he get a game in superleague for Huddersfield who are higher up the table than us, but not for us? That one sure as hell beats me.

Maybe we'll see against Hull KR.

: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:12 pm  

Down to nothing but poor coaching, motivation and tactics, other coaches in superleague get the very best out of there players. Warrington a good example, crap with Lowes in charge yet considerabley improve with Smith in charge, for me not changing the coach earlier in the season has written this season in superleague off.

: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:48 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

Down to nothing but poor coaching, motivation and tactics, other coaches in superleague get the very best out of there players. Warrington a good example, crap with Lowes in charge yet considerabley improve with Smith in charge, for me not changing the coach earlier in the season has written this season in superleague off.

No he has a great track record....with 1 team whose infrastructure he inherited.

: Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:27 am  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

Down to nothing but poor coaching, motivation and tactics, other coaches in superleague get the very best out of there players. Warrington a good example, crap with Lowes in charge yet considerabley improve with Smith in charge, for me not changing the coach earlier in the season has written this season in superleague off.

I agree with Charlie Seeling.

Brian Noble wrote:

"You think you can show up and win so I suppose it is complacency. We have just disrespected the ball and we didn't do the things we have practised to do. It showed in the result.

"Two points were thrown away by us because of our attitude and that is taking nothing away from Celtic who were manful, dogged, they kept in the game and found some decent kicks.

So Brian, you are blaming the defeat on complacency and poor attitude? And who is that down to?

Mr Lenegan - are you going to listen to these same excuses for the next 3 months and watch our support dwindle further or are you going to grow some b0llocks and take action?

Whatever people might think, today was a very embarrassing result.

: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:33 am  

I agree coaching is a huge part of it, but the players are not without blame themselves. Where is the pride in the jersey and themselves?

Arrogance was the reason I believe we lost, collectively the players thought all they had to do was turn up and we would win.

After 60 mins it suddendly dawned on the thick sods that we might just lose so they started to throw the ball around playing panick rugby, but as they had been so rubbish the whole game it just would not work for them.

: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:41 am  

It's not good enough!, Wigan haven't been good enough for a while and this defeat highlight's that fact!

I am getting fed up of saying this but their needs to be a change!, because we aint going anywhere at the moment!. Without harping on about it a club of this size should be doing better!

I don't think we have the players or the management to get the club anywhere:

The likes of Fielden etc have been off form for ages, Sean Oloughlin as good a plyer as he is, i don't see him as a captain and we have too many australians whom aren't at it!. We get rid of Mickey Higham and bring in Riddell? what good has that done?

And yet we are still going in for these over priced, australians whom lets face it if they are allowed to leave their clubs in the NRL they can't be that good?

Lenagan has to take action, i hope he is either going to make a change soon or do it at the end of the season!

: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:56 am  

Although Wigan boss Brian Noble congratulated the Crusaders, he was critical of his side's attitude towards the match which now means they have lost three of their last four matches.

"It was a reflection of our attitude, which I thought was poor today at times. With all the strides we have made in the last five or six weeks, today was a poor effort.

hmmm something doesn't add up here. The great strides in a poor run of form. Noble has lost all his senses me thinks.

: Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:24 am  

rsefitpro2007 wrote:

It's not good enough!, Wigan haven't been good enough for a while and this defeat highlight's that fact!

I am getting fed up of saying this but their needs to be a change!, because we aint going anywhere at the moment!. Without harping on about it a club of this size should be doing better!

I don't think we have the players or the management to get the club anywhere:

The likes of Fielden etc have been off form for ages, Sean Oloughlin as good a plyer as he is, i don't see him as a captain and we have too many australians whom aren't at it!. We get rid of Mickey Higham and bring in Riddell? what good has that done?

And yet we are still going in for these over priced, australians whom lets face it if they are allowed to leave their clubs in the NRL they can't be that good?

Lenagan has to take action, i hope he is either going to make a change soon or do it at the end of the season!

Is Piggy still crap then?

: Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:25 am  

rsefitpro2007 wrote:

It's not good enough!, Wigan haven't been good enough for a while and this defeat highlight's that fact!

I am getting fed up of saying this but their needs to be a change!, because we aint going anywhere at the moment!. Without harping on about it a club of this size should be doing better!

I don't think we have the players or the management to get the club anywhere:

The likes of Fielden etc have been off form for ages, Sean Oloughlin as good a plyer as he is, i don't see him as a captain and we have too many australians whom aren't at it!. We get rid of Mickey Higham and bring in Riddell? what good has that done?

And yet we are still going in for these over priced, australians whom lets face it if they are allowed to leave their clubs in the NRL they can't be that good?

Lenagan has to take action, i hope he is either going to make a change soon or do it at the end of the season!

I said something similar on a different thread and was shot down in flames by Jukesy and Catalancs. Wonder if they still feel the same?