FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - * * * Rumours & Signings XIII * * *
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9514
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 21 200520 years98th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Nov 24 17:4521st Nov 24 17:45LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Leeds

* * * Rumours & Signings XIII * * * : Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:57 pm  
Father Ted wrote:
It has occurred to me that IL is deadly silent because all the deals he's made with a new coach and new players is all boxed off, signed, sealed but just the delivery date to be agreed.
If that is the case then it's just a matter of wait and see.


I don't think this is the case at all, just as it wasn't last year.
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7439No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 14 200520 years210th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Oct 24 08:3027th Oct 24 08:09LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: * * * Rumours & Signings XIII * * * : Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:09 pm  
MadDogg wrote:
I don't think this is the case at all, just as it wasn't last year.


Lets just face it - Noble will probably stay because we'll as always have a decent run come end of the season which will pull the wool over IL's eyes and hand him a new contract on a plate.

I'm grateful for all Noble has done for us - he has laid some solid foundations down for future generations at Wigan. Without sounding harsh or un-grateful towards him, I hope he isn't here to see them vome to fruitition. i think he's taken us as far as he can.

TBH I'm not arsed who we sign, so long as that player is of the right calibre for Wigan and will help to take us forward.
post 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5193No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 23 200619 years302nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th Aug 24 21:5428th Mar 24 11:17LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:15 pm  
Its common that players, clubs and agents don't stick to the anti tamper deadline of Septemebr 1st.

So if I were IL I would check on the availability of Morley and what he wants to come here.

Same with LMS and see what transfer fee Quins would require and whether he would want to come but surely an approach to LMS should only come when we look like an attractive club e.g. Quins are doing crap and we are back to normal doin fantastic under Kearney :wink:

Same with Lockyer, people criticise his defence but how tough is the NRL? He isn't Queensland 6 and Aus 6 for nothing and with Lockers and Gleeson either side of him I think he would do ok.

I am not overly convinced with Griffin, he has potential and takes the ball in hard with plenty aggression, I would take him on loan for the rest of the year and if he does well at a big club then offer him terms.

Also make an offer to Briscoe.

I believe with those players and Smith, Coley, Bailey, Phelps, Pryce (Loan), Flanagan (Loan), Prescott (Loan), Goulding (Loan). McIllorum (Month to month loan).
cadoo 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13938
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 23 200618 years298th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Oct 24 21:1413th Oct 24 18:03LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Rugby Union: When entertainment just isn't your thing.

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:22 pm  
We have won 7 games out of 17 matches so far this season.

Results included:

An injury plagued Wakefield side at home.
The team that finished second from bottom last season Hull FC away.
The team that finished bottom last season Castleford at home.
A moment of madness from Chad Randall to sneak a win against Harlequins away.
A smacking away at Leeds.
Huddersfield beating us convincingly at home.
Failing to take our chances against Stains at home.
A good hiding away at Catalans
Again failing to take our chances against Hull KR at home.
Almost slipping up against Barrow in the challenge cup.
Beat AGAIN against Warrington away.
Losing to the bottom placed side in super league who also had their injury problems and half the squad are made up of NL1 players - Celtic Crusaders.

Inconsistent results include:

Beating Saints at Murrayfield.
Beating Wakefield twice away.
Beating Celtic Crusaders at home.
Beating Salford 3 times this season.
Beating Bradford at home.
Just sneaking past Harlequins.

We have only won 3 games at home.


A shocking run of results really, absolutely terrible by the expectations of Wigan I would have thought and surely this would results in the sacking of the coach but evidently not.

Brian Noble does not even have the accolades of previous years (apart from the year he kept us up 2006). We have gotten worse since then in terms of results and IMO performances on the pitch.

The reason we are in the semi-finals of the challenge cup and have been in the semi-finals of super league is because in one off matches we are very good. The odd match every now and then we can win. But consistently week after week in the league we have been hopeless for the past three years. Not good enough.
Last edited by cadoo on Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
post 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5193No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 23 200619 years302nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th Aug 24 21:5428th Mar 24 11:17LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:27 pm  
http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=2427&hs2=2009&hp2=2020&stat=tackle_busts&season=2009

I would bring in LMS to replace Prescott who would go out on loan and bring in Morley to replace Coley.

Fielden and Morley starting

LMS nad Palea'aesina impact. Ooooouch!
http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=2427&hs2=2009&hp2=2020&stat=tackle_busts&season=2009

I would bring in LMS to replace Prescott who would go out on loan and bring in Morley to replace Coley.

Fielden and Morley starting

LMS nad Palea'aesina impact. Ooooouch!
RB 
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4235No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 04 200717 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th Jul 09 23:121st Jan 70 00:00LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:28 pm  
cadoo wrote:
One off results include:

Beating Saints at Murrayfield.
Beating Wakefield twice away.
Beating Celtic Crusaders at home.
Beating Salford 3 times this season.
Beating Bradford at home.
Just sneaking past Harlequins.


How can you describe any of those 'one off results'. I would describe the loss to Celtic as a one off result.
cadoo 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13938
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 23 200618 years298th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Oct 24 21:1413th Oct 24 18:03LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Rugby Union: When entertainment just isn't your thing.

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:35 pm  
RB wrote:
How can you describe any of those 'one off results'. I would describe the loss to Celtic as a one off result.


Well they are hardly consistent are they?

How can you say Celtic is a one off results when we lost to Wakefield, Castleford, Huddersfield, Hull KR at home and Wire and Catalans away. All shocking performances.

It is quite consistent from Wigan.
Odem 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach12860No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 29 200817 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
4th Mar 20 12:1526th Feb 20 18:39LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Ashvegas/Coventry
Signature
Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
-
sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
-
Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
-
the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
-
Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
-
Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
-
FIOS

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:38 pm  
cadoo wrote:
We have won 7 games out of 17 matches so far this season.

Results included:

An injury plagued Wakefield side at home.
The team that finished second from bottom last season Hull FC away.
The team that finished bottom last season Castleford at home.
A moment of madness from Chad Randall to sneak a win against Harlequins away.
A smacking away at Leeds.
Huddersfield beating us convincingly at home.
Failing to take our chances against Stains at home.
A good hiding away at Catalans
Again failing to take our chances against Hull KR at home.
Almost slipping up against Barrow in the challenge cup.
Beat AGAIN against Warrington away.
Losing to the bottom placed side in super league who also had their injury problems and half the squad are made up of NL1 players - Celtic Crusaders.

One off results include:

Beating Saints at Murrayfield.
Beating Wakefield twice away.
Beating Celtic Crusaders at home.
Beating Salford 3 times this season.
Beating Bradford at home.
Just sneaking past Harlequins.

We have only won 3 games at home.


A shocking run of results really, absolutely terrible by the expectations of Wigan I would have thought and surely this would results in the sacking of the coach but evidently not.

Brian Noble does not even have the accolades of previous years (apart from the year he kept us up 2006). We have gotten worse since then in terms of results and IMO performances on the pitch.

The reason we are in the semi-finals of the challenge cup and have been in the semi-finals of super league is because in one off matches we are very good. The odd match every now and then we can win. But consistently week after week in the league we have been hopeless for the past three years. Not good enough.


That does not make sense how can beating Wakefield twice away and Salford 3 times constitute 1 off results.

I see your points though and all these posts about Noble are really messing with my head in my opinion of Noble, all I can say is that this season has been really disapointing and I expect better as a Wigan fan, I would love for him to stay and be succesful but I really cannot see it atm, and IMO if he is offered a new contract with that run of results even if we do make the challenge cup final and win it or even go on a good run at the end of the season, we are not in a good place as a club because we should be doing better than we are, with this team. I am not sure I would complain if we had poor players but it's the fact that we have good players who have shown us what they can do at times by beating saints easily at murrayfield but overall we are not getting the best out of them. I still support Noble untill he leaves though, it's not up to us who stays or goes.
RB 
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4235No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 04 200717 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
14th Jul 09 23:121st Jan 70 00:00LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:38 pm  
cadoo wrote:
How can you say Celtic is a one off results when we lost to Wakefield, Castleford, Huddersfield, Hull KR at home and Wire and Catalans away. All shocking performances.


Because we beat them 44-10 at home and I doubt if we played them another 10 times we would lose again.
cadoo 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13938
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 23 200618 years298th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Oct 24 21:1413th Oct 24 18:03LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Rugby Union: When entertainment just isn't your thing.

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:42 pm  
odemwingie wrote:
That does not make sense how can beating Wakefield twice away and Salford 3 times constitute 1 off results.

I see your points though and all these posts about Noble are really messing with my head in my opinion of Noble, all I can say is that this season has been really disapointing and I expect better as a Wigan fan, I would love for him to stay and be succesful but I really cannot see it atm, and IMO if he is offered a new contract with that run of results even if we do make the challenge cup final and win it or even go on a good run at the end of the season, we are not in a good place as a club because we should be doing better than we are, with this team. I am not sure I would complain if we had poor players but it's the fact that we have good players who have shown us what they can do at times by beating saints easily at murrayfield but overall we are not getting the best out of them. I still support Noble untill he leaves though, it's not up to us who stays or goes.


Okay the wording was put poorly. They weren't one off results but they weren't consistent. They are dotted out over the course of the season and it is annoying how one week we can put a brilliant performance (like the first 15-20 minutes of the Salford game) and then lose to Celtic Crusaders.

The semi-finals in the league have covered up the cracks of the side and I think honestly if you took out Trent Barrett we wouldn't have even been in the position to get close to Old Trafford. Even with him in truth we have well and truely been beaten by Leeds twice in the semi-final.

Catalans in the cup is the closest we can to a final and a sniff of a trophy but I don't put this down to us being a good side and Noble being a genius it is because on our day we can put in a one off performance and so subsequently we are a decent cup team.
Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: leg_end and 268 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wigan Warriors


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40717
34m
Film game
Boss Hog
5599
49m
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
56m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
496
57m
Leeds away first up
Start@1873
37
59m
War of the Roses
karetaker
29
Recent
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
Recent
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
Recent
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
45s
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
51s
Leeds away first up
Start@1873
37
1m
IMG Score
Bullseye
80
1m
War of the Roses
karetaker
29
1m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
1m
2025 Kit
dddooommm
9
1m
Accounts
Tony Fax
130
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Zig
13
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63207
1m
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Start@1873
37
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
253
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
479
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1242
England's Women Demolish The W..
1068
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1302
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1096
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1352
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1902
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2119
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2364
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1939
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2172
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2641
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2065
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2144
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40717
34m
Film game
Boss Hog
5599
49m
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
56m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
496
57m
Leeds away first up
Start@1873
37
59m
War of the Roses
karetaker
29
Recent
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
Recent
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
Recent
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
45s
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
51s
Leeds away first up
Start@1873
37
1m
IMG Score
Bullseye
80
1m
War of the Roses
karetaker
29
1m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
1m
2025 Kit
dddooommm
9
1m
Accounts
Tony Fax
130
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Zig
13
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63207
1m
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Start@1873
37
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
253
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
479
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1242
England's Women Demolish The W..
1068
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1302
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1096
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1352
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1902
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2119
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2364
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1939
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2172
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2641
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2065
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2144


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!