stefan marsh : Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:18 am  

couldnt get to the game so interested in his performance.
sounded like he took his try well, and he certainly didnt appear to meke the mistakes that joel did at times.

interested in thoughts of those that were there

Re: stefan marsh : Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:54 am  

I would also like a rating. Marsh highlights a weakness in Maguires coaching, he drops some players yet Finch gets a different treatment. Wigan need to develop Marsh, Goulding & Charnely into international class centres and then we can put Joel back into the 2nd row.

Re: stefan marsh : Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:57 am  

Mash Butty wrote:

I would also like a rating. Marsh highlights a weakness in Maguires coaching, he drops some players yet Finch gets a different treatment. Wigan need to develop Marsh, Goulding & Charnely into international class centres and then we can put Joel back into the 2nd row.

What do you mean by Finch gets a different treatment? He's been one of our best players for the last 5 or 6 weeks.

I agree that we need time to develop centres but to be fair, Charnley is scoring for fun at the moment with Joel on his inside.

Re: stefan marsh : Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:28 am  

Mash Butty wrote:

I would also like a rating. Marsh highlights a weakness in Maguires coaching, he drops some players yet Finch gets a different treatment. Wigan need to develop Marsh, Goulding & Charnely into international class centres and then we can put Joel back into the 2nd row.

Re: stefan marsh : Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:30 am  

I would be aware of having a back line of Marsh, Goulding, Charnley & Sam. There is no size or power in that back line.

For me, one of them will be kept on a long term and currently, Charnley holds the torch.

Re: stefan marsh : Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:33 am  

Marsh was Marsh. He threw himself into it at 100mph whilst coming up with a mixed bag. On the good side he made a couple of half breaks, took his try well, chased kicks for his life and in the main defended well and on the bad side he never looked up with ball in hand and did fall of just 1 or 2 tackles(but his pace helps him out in recovering).

Without doubt a winger and he could be a pretty good one at that.

Re: stefan marsh : Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:51 pm  

OK lets look at Finch, the Cas match, falls for a dummy from McGoldrick = try for Cas, dummies a play of the ball near the end of the match = penalty to Cas.
The Huds match, wigan score & receive ball back from kick off, throws a pass to no one, Huds score.
The Catalan debacle at the DW, the Cats run at Finch and score a try at will on every occasion they run at him.
The DW match against the wires, the Wires run at him and score on each occasion. Special treatment= doesn't get dropped for big defensive errors, and plays an important match for which he wasn't even fit to play = pally with Maguire.
Organisation skills are coming on strong, however at Times he looks as slow as a carthorse. Watch who Warringtion attack in both of the up and coming matches, it will be Finch.
It reminds me of when we had J O'Neil and Matty Johns, big signings who we had to play because we paid big money but weren't up to it.
Get Chase in the side before Leeds sign him up

Re: stefan marsh : Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:57 pm  

Mash Butty wrote:

OK lets look at Finch, the Cas match, falls for a dummy from McGoldrick = try for Cas, dummies a play of the ball near the end of the match = penalty to Cas.
The Huds match, wigan score & receive ball back from kick off, throws a pass to no one, Huds score.
The Catalan debacle at the DW, the Cats run at Finch and score a try at will on every occasion they run at him.
The DW match against the wires, the Wires run at him and score on each occasion. Special treatment= doesn't get dropped for big defensive errors, and plays an important match for which he wasn't even fit to play = pally with Maguire.
Organisation skills are coming on strong, however at Times he looks as slow as a carthorse. Watch who Warringtion attack in both of the up and coming matches, it will be Finch.
It reminds me of when we had J O'Neil and Matty Johns, big signings who we had to play because we paid big money but weren't up to it.
Get Chase in the side before Leeds sign him up

Not sure what you have against him but you're mad. Every player makes mistakes in games but he's been fantastic lately.

Re: stefan marsh : Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:12 pm  

We need a good pair of centres, and not playing Marsh & Goulding hinders us next year. But he doesn't play them why? Because they make mistakes? Finch has cost us in all our defeats this year but keeps getting picked. Its not Finch I have a problem with its Maguires double standards

Re: stefan marsh : Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:16 pm  

Mash Butty wrote:

I don't like Brett Finch, he's rubbish etc

All you have done is list mistakes that Finch has made, yet you don't mention any of the fantastic passes, kicks, breaks he has made, or the experience he brings to the team? I'll admit he was poor against wire and Catalans, I was one of those who questioned his signing at the time. But as those who knew better at the time said, he needed game time to get over his serious injury and he would come good. He probably shouldn't have been thrown in against wire, it was a risk that probably didn't pay off, although he did score a try didn't he? Quite frankly the whole team was awful at home against Catalans, should they all have bden dropped? What about the way he has led the team across the pitch in the last couple of months, the man of the match performance away at saints? Quite how this relates to marsh I'm not sure, I haven't seen yesterdays game, but for me Marsh is never a centre, he simply doesn't have the awareness when he has the ball, it's head down all the way. I do think he'll make a good winger though.

To compare the gametime Marsh and Finch have got is surely ridiculous, one is a young back who is still learning, the other an experienced pivot who has a very important role in the team.