Re: Announcement : Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:03 am  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Good luck getting a bite with this! You’re getting as bad as the duckie!

I’m not looking for a bite. Stop being so sensitive. It’s a pertinent point. I’m assuming Wigan are operating to the full cap and if so, I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a poor squad from a team utilising the full cap which is why someone needs to take responsibility

Re: Announcement : Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:34 am  

What makes anyone think Wigan are up to the cap? The highest paid players which I's have thought were Williams and Lockers both have massive SC discounts. There are other discounts too.
IL was looking to reduce the wage bill from last year both on and off the field so if we were up to the cap last year one would deduce we're under it this season.

Re: Announcement : Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:35 am  

dont think Lockers is massive

Re: Announcement : Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:47 am  

Father Ted wrote:

What makes anyone think Wigan are up to the cap? The highest paid players which I's have thought were Williams and Lockers both have massive SC discounts. There are other discounts too.
IL was looking to reduce the wage bill from last year both on and off the field so if we were up to the cap last year one would deduce we're under it this season.

They have a lot of backroom staff working for FREE, getting people to do work experience and so on as a way of getting things done.

Re: Announcement : Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:13 am  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

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Seriously Grimmy do you really think we are using the cap better now than 2013??

No, but that wasn't the question The question was who have we signed who was better than the player who left. I've named a few there who all match in terms of season and position. IMO pretty much all SL squads have got worse year by year due to the increase in the attractiveness of the NRL due to the disparity in salary caps, and UK players seeing other UK players go there and succeed. I wish they would drastically increase the cap to help combat this, but they won't. I'd be very surprised if we aren't close to the limit on the cap.

Re: Announcement : Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:16 am  

Pieman wrote:

I stopped reading there

Nu'uausala came with a big rep and had a few good games in the 2016 super 8s but other than that he was bloody awful. Never seen a prop forward surrender so regularly. I was made up when we managed to get him offloaded last year, as was pretty much everyone IIRC. Bullock doesn't have the same rep but has performed way better so far, presumably for a lot less cap space.

Re: Announcement : Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:40 am  

Spot on Grimmy

Re: Announcement : Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:24 pm  

I do wonder if they planned to announce Lam extending his contract as part of this 'wave' of signings, but had to withdraw that announcement when Lam flew back to Australia.

Either way it didn't warrant 4 days of build up - and extending Clubb is criminal.

Re: Announcement : Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:45 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

Nu'uausala came with a big rep and had a few good games in the 2016 super 8s but other than that he was bloody awful. Never seen a prop forward surrender so regularly. I was made up when we managed to get him offloaded last year, as was pretty much everyone IIRC. Bullock doesn't have the same rep but has performed way better so far, presumably for a lot less cap space.

he just hasnt. FPN hardly missed a game or a tackle. He surrendered easily as all our props do as the emphasis was a quick PTB which he got, not yards after contact. So in effect he played to the game plan perfectly. Bullock is lazy in defence and doesnt run his weight after the first run as hes knackered. People are saying how good he is but seriously I think hes been poor.

Re: Announcement : Sat Jun 08, 2019 4:34 pm  

Pieman wrote:

he just hasnt. FPN hardly missed a game or a tackle. He surrendered easily as all our props do as the emphasis was a quick PTB which he got, not yards after contact. So in effect he played to the game plan perfectly. Bullock is lazy in defence and doesnt run his weight after the first run as hes knackered. People are saying how good he is but seriously I think hes been poor.

Nobody has said Bullock is a perfect prop and of course he has areas to improve on. However, to say Dudson was better is miles off. Most of us are happy with Bullock’s progression from lower league to England call up in a short time. He’ll continue to improve, Dudson didn’t.