FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Tautai - Drink driving.
post 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5193No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 23 200618 years263rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 11:1728th Mar 24 11:17LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.

Re: Tautai - Drink driving. : Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:43 pm  
Grimmy wrote:
'Allowed out' :CRAZY: They are grown men!


And you say I as if no coach has ever put a booze ban on his players. :CRAZY:

Simple, after a defeat the coach says “Right lads, we are in tomorrow morning bright and early”

After a win “Go and enjoy yourselves lads”

The concept is quite simple Grimmy.
Grimmy 
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach15436
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 16 200519 years195th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 11:3014th Dec 23 10:22LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Frank Zappa wrote:
Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.

The_Enforcer wrote:
Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.

Re: Tautai - Drink driving. : Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:28 pm  
post wrote:
And you say I as if no coach has ever put a booze ban on his players. :CRAZY:

Simple, after a defeat the coach says “Right lads, we are in tomorrow morning bright and early”

After a win “Go and enjoy yourselves lads”

The concept is quite simple Grimmy.

Treat grown men like that and many will resent the club and leave. I'd agree with asking them to take it easy over specific periods (e.g the last couple of weeks of pre season, the play offs, time between the CC semi and final, during internationals) but ultimately they're grown men who make their own decisions. Telling adults "any time you lose you aren't allowed to go out" really isn't going to work, particularly if you lose regularly like we are! Would you accept your work telling you what to do with your free time if the company wasn't performing?
post 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5193No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 23 200618 years263rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 11:1728th Mar 24 11:17LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.

Re: Tautai - Drink driving. : Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:11 pm  
Grimmy wrote:
Treat grown men like that and many will resent the club and leave. I'd agree with asking them to take it easy over specific periods (e.g the last couple of weeks of pre season, the play offs, time between the CC semi and final, during internationals) but ultimately they're grown men who make their own decisions. Telling adults "any time you lose you aren't allowed to go out" really isn't going to work, particularly if you lose regularly like we are! Would you accept your work telling you what to do with your free time if the company wasn't performing?


I do on call 1 in 5 weeks, for that I get paid standby money and aint allowed to drink alcohol or go too far in case I’m called out. I think it’s a fair deal.

Didn’t Maguire issue a booze ban at one spell? It’s not something new mate, plenty teams will do. To say you are treating them like kids, well that’s a load of Bullocks. They are professional sportsmen so they shouldn’t be going out getting bladdered, this isn’t the 1980s or amateur rugby. No wonder we are crap.

What do you think fighters do? Do you think their nutritionists get told to stop treating them like kids by telling them not to eat crap and drink alcohol? Or do the professional sportsmen take sound advice about their nutrition and hydration if they want to succeed and have that edge over their opponent? Don’t talk crap Grimmy, this isn’t the normal 9-5 workplace, this is top level sport.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach230
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 11 200320 years297th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
15th Mar 24 13:4515th Jul 23 15:34LINK
Milestone Posts
200
250
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Northwich, Cheshire

Re: Tautai - Drink driving. : Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:14 pm  
Why don’t we just jack in the Rugby and open up a massive rehab centre for drug users, drink drivers, wannabe boxers and a whole host of other problems that our players seem to want to get involved in?
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain571No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 11 20186 years294th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Mar 24 06:328th Nov 21 17:53LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Tautai - Drink driving. : Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:46 pm  
Pieman wrote:
the latter, he says the players all expected that level also so you were in the poop if you didnt deliver that in training and the pitch. Off the pitch used to take care of its self really John Monie used to say he got phone calls of bar owners and he went and sorted it out.



Was no social media and forums in them days though so you only heard about it down the pub on Sunday before the match. We won and it was forgotten. It wasn't right then and isn't right now.
RankPostsTeam
International Star2795No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20 201113 years274th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Nov 23 17:244th Nov 23 09:34LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Tautai - Drink driving. : Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:52 pm  
Grimmy wrote:
Treat grown men like that and many will resent the club and leave. I'd agree with asking them to take it easy over specific periods (e.g the last couple of weeks of pre season, the play offs, time between the CC semi and final, during internationals) but ultimately they're grown men who make their own decisions. Telling adults "any time you lose you aren't allowed to go out" really isn't going to work, particularly if you lose regularly like we are! Would you accept your work telling you what to do with your free time if the company wasn't performing?


Spot on Grimmy. They’re just as entitled to a drink on their day off as anybody and it would be impossible to police it in any case. They’re professional athletes and some will look after themselves better than others.
Tautai in this case had a few beers AFTER a game, not before it and I’m ok with that. The issue is that he opted to commit a criminal offence.
After Hardaker and Mullen,it’s absolutely shocking that he did this but he should be treated the same as they were and looked after. If it hasn’t been done already, it should be written into a code of conduct that every member of staff should agree to. It should be considered gross misconduct and should result in dismissal. That doesn’t have to stop the club supporting them from a welfare point of view but they should never play for the club again.
post 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5193No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 23 200618 years263rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 11:1728th Mar 24 11:17LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.

Re: Tautai - Drink driving. : Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:09 pm  
Bigredwarrior wrote:
Spot on Grimmy. They’re just as entitled to a drink on their day off as anybody and it would be impossible to police it in any case. They’re professional athletes and some will look after themselves better than others.
Tautai in this case had a few beers AFTER a game, not before it and I’m ok with that. The issue is that he opted to commit a criminal offence.
After Hardaker and Mullen,it’s absolutely shocking that he did this but he should be treated the same as they were and looked after. If it hasn’t been done already, it should be written into a code of conduct that every member of staff should agree to. It should be considered gross misconduct and should result in dismissal. That doesn’t have to stop the club supporting them from a welfare point of view but they should never play for the club again.


There’s a difference between having a couple of beers and going round King St until 4am after you’ve been beat and then drink driving. Let’s not confuse the two.
RankPostsTeam
International Star2795No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20 201113 years274th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Nov 23 17:244th Nov 23 09:34LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Tautai - Drink driving. : Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:17 pm  
post wrote:
There’s a difference between having a couple of beers and going round King St until 4am after you’ve been beat and then drink driving. Let’s not confuse the two.


It’s after a game and he’s perfectly entitled to get absolutely smashed if he wants to do so. All we can hope for as fans is that players choose not to do that.
post 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5193No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 23 200618 years263rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 11:1728th Mar 24 11:17LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.

Re: Tautai - Drink driving. : Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:33 pm  
Bigredwarrior wrote:
It’s after a game and he’s perfectly entitled to get absolutely smashed if he wants to do so. All we can hope for as fans is that players choose not to do that.


After a game is just as bad, that’s when he needs to rehydrate and get all his protein, amino acids and salts and all that which people more in the know will know, not 12 pints of Stella.
RankPostsTeam
International Star2795No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20 201113 years274th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Nov 23 17:244th Nov 23 09:34LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Tautai - Drink driving. : Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:47 pm  
post wrote:
After a game is just as bad, that’s when he needs to rehydrate and get all his protein, amino acids and salts and all that which people more in the know will know, not 12 pints of Stella.


Correct. Recovery is huge but won’t negatively impact on his performance after the game. It’s he’s been out until 4am the night before a game I’d have a very different view.
I’m not sure where u got 12 pints of Stella from? 4 pints would be enough to put him twice over the limit.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bad Leg Strikes, Jason65, MadDogg, roo67, sergeant pepper, SubjectNine and 382 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wigan Warriors


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
York - 14th April
PopTart
2
5m
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
Mrs Barista
127
7m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 6
rhinosTY
36
17m
Rd 6 I Cas A
The Biffs Ba
25
25m
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
PopTart
27
45m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Wanderer
17
Recent
Ky Rodwell
Start@1873
106
Recent
Smith - should he stay or should he go
Steve0
353
Recent
21 man Squads - Devils v Leopards
Deeeekos
3
Recent
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Smiffy27
18
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
45s
Smith - should he stay or should he go
Steve0
353
48s
Saints a
Mark_P1973
22
1m
York - 14th April
PopTart
2
1m
Championship TV deal
Trojan Horse
18
1m
Shopping list for 2025
Tarquin Fueg
405
1m
Spare Tickets Friday
post
4
1m
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
PopTart
27
2m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Wanderer
17
2m
Challenge Cup
stpatricks
37
2m
Fevround 2
Wollo-Wollo-
89
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
York - 14th April
PopTart
2
TODAY
Stats article
Sir Gregory
5
TODAY
21 man Squads - Devils v Leopards
Deeeekos
3
TODAY
Squad for Catalan
Smiffy27
17
TODAY
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
TODAY
Dons v Swinton Lions 30 June 2024
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
TODAY
London Away
Fartown58
1
TODAY
The Bulls away
terry silver
9
TODAY
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Smiffy27
18
TODAY
Saints a
Mark_P1973
22
TODAY
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
TODAY
Wardle
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Huddersfield - Home
Fartown58
6
TODAY
Max Wood on loan to Bradford 2 weeks
rubber ducki
7
TODAY
Jake Wardle 5 Year deal
Zig
22
TODAY
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
PopTart
27
TODAY
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Rd 6 I Cas A
The Biffs Ba
25
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Wanderer
17
TODAY
Spare Tickets Friday
post
4
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangeme..
512
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Fin..
635
Easy Does It For The Dragons A..
559
Warrington Demolish London For..
667
Leigh Leopards Beat Plucky Fea..
710
Saints Triumph Over Disappoint..
690
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
936
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
909
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
1055
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
1027
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
1077
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
1070
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3844
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
1190
Dragons Triumph Over Hull FC t..
1067
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist