Re: Greenwood : Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:19 pm  

Mini Rogue wrote:

Correct, he's had one good game that I can recall this year and that was Salford away. Last year he was in a much better team and the forwards he had along side him meant he didn't have to work hard as much. He was a luxury signing last year and now that we've lost a couple of forwards since I don't think he's as essential to the team as other players are. He runs a couple of good lines but even they've become rare, I feel he's very lazy in defence ( See Saints away first game of the season when he goes in to hiding on a defensive set on our own line it's one of the many reasons Saints fans haven't been bothered by not re signing him. We missed a trick with not signing Josh Jones, Hull have done very well there. Isa and Farrell start in the second row every week for me, he's lucky if he can get a spot on the bench.

I'm sure I remember him being on fire Vs Cas away, but then going off with an injury. Funnily enough the same thing happened to Sammut in the exact same game.

I'd pick Greenwood in the side over Isa every day of the week and twice on a Sunday too. He might be a lazy defender, but he's not a stupid defender like Isa is. Watch the Salford game from 2 weeks ago and see who's at fault for their first (iirc) try.

Isa might also make more carries, but he makes hardly any yards. You might as well run with Greenwood doing no carries in his own half, but is a try scoring threat in the opposition half. At least there's something there.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Greenwood : Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:42 pm  

As a neutral, i've never been a big fan of him, wasn't overly impressed at sintellins, he was ok going forward but couldn't defend, and i thought his signing replacing tomkins last year made you weaker, i think he's pretty one dimensional you wouldn't miss him if you let him go.

Re: Greenwood : Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:38 pm  

I’m absolutely amazed Byrne gets picked over him, that’s all I’ll say.

Re: Greenwood : Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:39 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

I’m absolutely amazed Byrne gets picked over him, that’s all I’ll say.

And Navarette.

Re: Greenwood : Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:00 pm  

Straight swap with Leeds for Ferris because they are both as good or bad as each other , as for Isa , works hard but is lightweight

Re: Greenwood : Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:15 pm  

Is his one of the best 17 players at the club? Yes!

But I feel can only play one position - left second row.

Is he out best left second row ? No, Farrell is.

Is Farrell any good in any other position ? No, not really.

So Faz gets the nods and that’s why Greenwood’s our the team

Re: Greenwood : Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:15 pm  

Is his one of the best 17 players at the club? Yes!

But I feel can only play one position - left second row.

Is he out best left second row ? No, Farrell is.

Is Farrell any good in any other position ? No, not really.

So Faz gets the nods and that’s why Greenwood’s out the team

Re: Greenwood : Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:30 pm  

NSW wrote:

Is his one of the best 17 players at the club? Yes!

But I feel can only play one position - left second row.

Is he out best left second row ? No, Farrell is.

Is Farrell any good in any other position ? No, not really.

So Faz gets the nods and that’s why Greenwood’s out the team

If he’s one of your best players you find a place for him.

Same as Origin where they play full backs on the wing, stand-offs in the centres, etc.

You just throw them in and more often than not they come up with plays.

Re: Greenwood : Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:10 pm  

Greenwood with half a heart is better than Isa & Faz put together tonight, so far. Our forwards are really quite pants, aren’t they.

Re: Greenwood : Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:44 pm  

Azul wrote:

Greenwood with half a heart is better than Isa & Faz put together tonight, so far. Our forwards are really quite pants, aren’t they.

I thought Faz tried hard and made some good carries but it was clear he was trying too hard at times and made a few mistakes.

There is no doubt in my mind though that Greenwood should of been involved if only on the bench. As i said in my first post, a baffling decision to leave him out when we need forward power. His wide power running could of got us back in the game in the first half when we had the ball near Salfords line.