Re: Arrogant/Ignorant (delete as applicable) Aussies : Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:03 pm  

Exactly. That's what I'm saying.

Re: Arrogant/Ignorant (delete as applicable) Aussies : Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:59 pm  

Correct. The club can reasonably anticipate which players might fancy the NRL. They tie them to long term deals with an escape clause, knowing that at least we’ll get some level of compensation. Good business if you ask me. What I did find strange was giving Davies a 5 year deal and releasing him for nothing a year later. Clearly it’s making a saving and possibly freeing up cap space.

Re: Arrogant/Ignorant (delete as applicable) Aussies : Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:41 pm  

Should just bang a £500k buy out fee on every player at the club and don't budge, If the Aussies really want them then make them pay

Re: Arrogant/Ignorant (delete as applicable) Aussies : Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:03 pm  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:

Should just bang a £500k buy out fee on every player at the club and don't budge, If the Aussies really want them then make them pay

All that will happen then is players won’t sign the contract and we loose them for nothing.

Re: Arrogant/Ignorant (delete as applicable) Aussies : Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:37 pm  

Trainman wrote:

All that will happen then is players won’t sign the contract and we loose them for nothing.

Then so be it, No player is bigger than the club, It should be a privilege to play for the greatest club in the world, Let players have an NRL get out clauses by all means but the price of compensation is £500k aplayer

Re: Arrogant/Ignorant (delete as applicable) Aussies : Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:02 pm  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote: Then so be it, No player is bigger than the club, It should be a privilege to play for the greatest club in the world, Let players have an NRL get out clauses by all means but the price of compensation is £500k aplayer Are you really that slow? The get out clause isn't and shouldn't be a deterrent, it's about getting extra and much needed funds into the club. Take Bateman as the prime example - he signed a 4 year deal, but even the wording at the time made it pretty clear he was only going to be here for 3 years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/34584141 That extra year got the club a significant transfer fee. Why would you take that away? Everyone - and I mean everyone knew he was going after his 3rd year, so the club had time to plan etc. There are zero reasons - apart from sour grapes, that any fan isn't happy with that deal. He was going anyway, so instead of letting him walk for free after 3 years, we put a reasonable get out clause in there which meant if someone wanted him badly then they'd pay and not let him go onto the open market.

The Whiffy Kipper wrote: Then so be it, No player is bigger than the club, It should be a privilege to play for the greatest club in the world, Let players have an NRL get out clauses by all means but the price of compensation is £500k aplayer Are you really that slow? The get out clause isn't and shouldn't be a deterrent, it's about getting extra and much needed funds into the club. Take Bateman as the prime example - he signed a 4 year deal, but even the wording at the time made it pretty clear he was only going to be here for 3 years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/34584141 That extra year got the club a significant transfer fee. Why would you take that away? Everyone - and I mean everyone knew he was going after his 3rd year, so the club had time to plan etc. There are zero reasons - apart from sour grapes, that any fan isn't happy with that deal. He was going anyway, so instead of letting him walk for free after 3 years, we put a reasonable get out clause in there which meant if someone wanted him badly then they'd pay and not let him go onto the open market.

Re: Arrogant/Ignorant (delete as applicable) Aussies : Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:55 pm  

But... those sour grapes are soooo tasty!

Re: Arrogant/Ignorant (delete as applicable) Aussies : Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:52 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote: Are you really that slow? The get out clause isn't and shouldn't be a deterrent, it's about getting extra and much needed funds into the club. Take Bateman as the prime example - he signed a 4 year deal, but even the wording at the time made it pretty clear he was only going to be here for 3 years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/34584141 That extra year got the club a significant transfer fee. Why would you take that away? Everyone - and I mean everyone knew he was going after his 3rd year, so the club had time to plan etc. There are zero reasons - apart from sour grapes, that any fan isn't happy with that deal. He was going anyway, so instead of letting him walk for free after 3 years, we put a reasonable get out clause in there which meant if someone wanted him badly then they'd pay and not let him go onto the open market. Some people just don’t get it and live in a world where players only play for love of the club and aren’t interested in anything else.

sergeant pepper wrote: Are you really that slow? The get out clause isn't and shouldn't be a deterrent, it's about getting extra and much needed funds into the club. Take Bateman as the prime example - he signed a 4 year deal, but even the wording at the time made it pretty clear he was only going to be here for 3 years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/34584141 That extra year got the club a significant transfer fee. Why would you take that away? Everyone - and I mean everyone knew he was going after his 3rd year, so the club had time to plan etc. There are zero reasons - apart from sour grapes, that any fan isn't happy with that deal. He was going anyway, so instead of letting him walk for free after 3 years, we put a reasonable get out clause in there which meant if someone wanted him badly then they'd pay and not let him go onto the open market. Some people just don’t get it and live in a world where players only play for love of the club and aren’t interested in anything else.

Re: Arrogant/Ignorant (delete as applicable) Aussies : Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:01 pm  

Trainman wrote:

Some people just don’t get it and live in a world where players only play for love of the club and aren’t interested in anything else.

No, Some people think the club should play hardball with the Aussies who think they can just come over here, Offer massive contracts to players then try to stiff the club by paying as much as they can get away with, The fact is IL hasn't got the balls to stand up to them and many fans on here and elsewhere seem to think that's ok, You can't make it up on here sometimes, Fans bitching and moaning about Aussies raiding SL and the lack of talent because of this and then in the next thread they are all for letting players go mid contract for a substantial but not massive fee, All I'm saying is put a set transfer fee on every player, Surely they are worth it if they have come through the academy and have 6 or 7 years worth of investment in them

Re: Arrogant/Ignorant (delete as applicable) Aussies : Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:14 am  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:

No, Some people think the club should play hardball with the Aussies who think they can just come over here, Offer massive contracts to players then try to stiff the club by paying as much as they can get away with, The fact is IL hasn't got the balls to stand up to them and many fans on here and elsewhere seem to think that's ok, You can't make it up on here sometimes, Fans bitching and moaning about Aussies raiding SL and the lack of talent because of this and then in the next thread they are all for letting players go mid contract for a substantial but not massive fee, All I'm saying is put a set transfer fee on every player, Surely they are worth it if they have come through the academy and have 6 or 7 years worth of investment in them

Can you really not see it? The contracts are deliberately designed to make sure the club gets a fee when the inevitable NRL offer comes along. Set the fee too high, the player won’t sign the contract, simple as that. If for example we slapped a massive fee on Jackson Hastings if he’s offered an NRL deal after 1 year, then he just wouldn’t have signed and we’d have ended up with a Matty Smith standard player. The club are getting it right.