Re: Fastest player : Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:59 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

How about comparing Makinson with Robinson, Offiah or Sullivan? I don't think any of them were a " golden boot winner"
You'd better ask your mam about them over your hot milk and biscuit routine.

I played against directly Offiah in his Rosslyn Park days just before he signed for us and the only time I got near him was to shake his hand at the end. Up 'till then I thought that I was quick.

Re: Fastest player : Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:41 pm  

The thread is "Fastest Player" so where does Makinson come into that? A good wingman yes but nowhere near the fastest player label.

Re: Fastest player : Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:39 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

Completely agree with this and your post immediately before it too. If Manfredi stays fit and injury free he could be up there. And if he hadn’t have done to RU Charnley would be streets ahead of any winger in the league.

Shame really. Charnley and Burgess seem like deliberate wastes of talent whereas Manfredi has been unbelievably unlucky.

Not to want to spoil our new found agreements but i disagree about Charnley. I think Charnley also lost some of his speed and some of his agility in his last couple of years at Wigan. Didnt he too suffer a bad injury? I certainly think Charnley peaked at a very young age, around the time we beat Wire in the CC on their ground. Was it 2011, i seem to remember him wearing that awful pink kit? He was a lethal try scorer back in those days. His only weakness was sometimes under the high ball IIRC.

Re: Fastest player : Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:38 pm  

Charnley never was and never will be one of the best wingers superleague has seen. He could never motivate himself to be one of the leagues best, for anything other than short spells. His whole career was summed up in the first 6 months of him being back in rugby league. He was a sensation when he first came back but the shine wears off and he starts to do the usual Charnley thing of going through the motions and it’s back to people watching that ten a penny winger.

Re: Fastest player : Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:50 pm  

Around 1990 ish John Monie arranged for offiah to come to a track and race Mark Preston. And Mark Preston won by an inch over 100 metres!

Re: Fastest player : Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:24 am  

It was in RL papers that Regan Grace had been clocked as fastest player in SL last season. Marshall not far behind. So if Burgess is out sprinting him in Wigan’s tests then he is up there with fastest in the league. Judging by some comments a good bet to be the 2019 scapegoat

Re: Fastest player : Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:31 am  

stpatricks wrote:

It was in RL papers that Regan Grace had been clocked as fastest player in SL last season. Marshall not far behind. So if Burgess is out sprinting him in Wigan’s tests then he is up there with fastest in the league. Judging by some comments a good bet to be the 2019 scapegoat

I think Burgess deserves the debates about his game that come his way time and again and whilst you’re right that some will have him as a scapegoat, I believe the question marks over his form and his application are justified. He is spoke about as often as he is because people know how talented he is and when talent like that isn’t showing up on the field, people are going to debate the reasons behind that.

He frustrates the life out of me and that’s not because of any grudge or willingness to have him as a scapegoat, it’s because I honestly think he’s got that much talent that he should be one of the best wingers in the world. The reasons why he’s been nowhere near his best for a long while now are thrown around and that’s plenty of opinions but he needs to stop the debate by producing his best. If he does that then we have a top class winger on our hands again.

Re: Fastest player : Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:23 am  

The_Enforcer wrote:

Not to want to spoil our new found agreements but i disagree about Charnley. I think Charnley also lost some of his speed and some of his agility in his last couple of years at Wigan. Didnt he too suffer a bad injury? I certainly think Charnley peaked at a very young age, around the time we beat Wire in the CC on their ground. Was it 2011, i seem to remember him wearing that awful pink kit? He was a lethal try scorer back in those days. His only weakness was sometimes under the high ball IIRC.

Oh why did you have to go and do that?

I disagree and I see there’s another poster I disagree with too. I thought he was fantastic throughout his time with us, always a solid finisher, defender and brought the ball out well. I suppose the debate is null and void currently as he’s nowhere near the leagues best at present anyway.

Re: Fastest player : Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:34 am  

Lee Oudenryn had a race with Martin Offiah, Martin Offiah lost

Re: Fastest player : Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:32 am  

[quote="The Whiffy Kipper"]Lee Oudenryn had a race with Martin Offiah, Martin Offiah lost[/quote]

Offiah lost but a number of the GB players won at the bookies...wasn't that the rumour?