[DaveO]

Powell and the penalty : Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:18 pm  

Why weren't we awarded an eight point try last night when Powell was fouled in the act of scoring? We were awarded one last season so unless the rules have changed they are a thing: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/lee-radford-has-no-issues-with-wigans-eight-point-try/

Why weren't we awarded an eight point try last night when Powell was fouled in the act of scoring? We were awarded one last season so unless the rules have changed they are a thing: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/lee-radford-has-no-issues-with-wigans-eight-point-try/

Re: Powell and the penalty : Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:22 pm  

DaveO wrote: Why weren't we awarded an eight point try last night when Powell was fouled in the act of scoring? We were awarded one last season so unless the rules have changed they are a thing: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/lee-radford-has-no-issues-with-wigans-eight-point-try/ My interpretation is that he had to actually ground it for an 8pt try. Other than that it’s a usual try penalty in front of the sticks

DaveO wrote: Why weren't we awarded an eight point try last night when Powell was fouled in the act of scoring? We were awarded one last season so unless the rules have changed they are a thing: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/lee-radford-has-no-issues-with-wigans-eight-point-try/ My interpretation is that he had to actually ground it for an 8pt try. Other than that it’s a usual try penalty in front of the sticks

Re: Powell and the penalty : Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:23 pm  

An eight point try can only be given if the player is fouled but has to ground the ball. Powell didn't, a penalty try was the correct decision.

Re: Powell and the penalty : Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:43 pm  

DaveO wrote: Why weren't we awarded an eight point try last night when Powell was fouled in the act of scoring? We were awarded one last season so unless the rules have changed they are a thing: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/lee-radford-has-no-issues-with-wigans-eight-point-try/ A try is only worth 4 points. He was awarded a try...that was the penalty, plus a conversion under the sticks...so technically 6 points. What we call an 8 point try...is actually only a 2 point penalty kick awarded after the try is already scored and a conversion kicked.

DaveO wrote: Why weren't we awarded an eight point try last night when Powell was fouled in the act of scoring? We were awarded one last season so unless the rules have changed they are a thing: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/lee-radford-has-no-issues-with-wigans-eight-point-try/ A try is only worth 4 points. He was awarded a try...that was the penalty, plus a conversion under the sticks...so technically 6 points. What we call an 8 point try...is actually only a 2 point penalty kick awarded after the try is already scored and a conversion kicked.

Re: Powell and the penalty : Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:56 pm  

I thought the penalty try was more contentious than the red card. For me I don't know how you can say conclusively that Powell would have scored.

Re: Powell and the penalty : Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:46 pm  

secondstanza wrote:

I thought the penalty try was more contentious than the red card. For me I don't know how you can say conclusively that Powell would have scored.

You mean you don't see how he could have fallen over the line unopposed if he hadn't have had his head taken off? Really?

Re: Powell and the penalty : Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:51 pm  

DaveO wrote: Why weren't we awarded an eight point try last night when Powell was fouled in the act of scoring? We were awarded one last season so unless the rules have changed they are a thing: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/lee-radford-has-no-issues-with-wigans-eight-point-try/ You can only get an 8 point try if you actually score the try. So hypothetically if Powell had held onto the ball whilst being decapitated and he actually grounded the ball he would have scored the try, we would have got a shot at goal as a normal conversion (which we may or may not have kicked), then we would have got the 2 point chance under the sticks for the penalty. In effect Powell didn't score, so the benefit is that we are getting the try (4 points) and the conversion as normal.

DaveO wrote: Why weren't we awarded an eight point try last night when Powell was fouled in the act of scoring? We were awarded one last season so unless the rules have changed they are a thing: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/lee-radford-has-no-issues-with-wigans-eight-point-try/ You can only get an 8 point try if you actually score the try. So hypothetically if Powell had held onto the ball whilst being decapitated and he actually grounded the ball he would have scored the try, we would have got a shot at goal as a normal conversion (which we may or may not have kicked), then we would have got the 2 point chance under the sticks for the penalty. In effect Powell didn't score, so the benefit is that we are getting the try (4 points) and the conversion as normal.

[DaveO]

Re: Powell and the penalty : Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:15 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

You can only get an 8 point try if you actually score the try.

So hypothetically if Powell had held onto the ball whilst being decapitated and he actually grounded the ball he would have scored the try, we would have got a shot at goal as a normal conversion (which we may or may not have kicked), then we would have got the 2 point chance under the sticks for the penalty.

In effect Powell didn't score, so the benefit is that we are getting the try (4 points) and the conversion as normal.

OK thanks. That then makes me wonder why the foul that led to the yellow card was also not awarded a try then.

Re: Powell and the penalty : Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:31 pm  

DaveO wrote:

OK thanks. That then makes me wonder why the foul that led to the yellow card was also not awarded a try then.

I’m certain French would’ve got there but I suppose there’s doubt because he may have got a funny bounce and not grounded it. I thought both calls were spot on really, which is funny because they were about the only two calls that were right all night (then again maybe it’s because they were taken out of Kendall’s hands).

Re: Powell and the penalty : Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:38 pm  

DaveO wrote:

OK thanks. That then makes me wonder why the foul that led to the yellow card was also not awarded a try then.

Further away from the line, the ball wasn’t in his hands and defender in the vicinity. They got that call and the penalty try spot on in my view.