Re: Hastings : Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:26 pm  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:

No probs, I keep mixing the 2006 season up with the 2007 season

Neither were any good really aside from the end of 06 and 3 of the last 4 games in 07

Re: Hastings : Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:03 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Neither were any good really aside from the end of 06 and 3 of the last 4 games in 07

My best memory form 2006 is the Bradford comeback game from 2007

Re: Hastings : Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:32 pm  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:

My best memory form 2006 is the Bradford comeback game from 2007

Re: Hastings : Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:26 am  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:

And this has been proven when?, While he was at Salford?, He was that world class down under that no other NRL club wanted him

Hold on there Whiffy. Take a breath and read what I put.

At no point have I said Hastings is a world class player. I don’t think any player can really be regarded as world class unless they are playing in the NRL with a few notable exception.

What I did say is Hastings is a world class competitor. He has a massive desire to win and be “the man” in the squad and this has been highlighted by his time at the Roosters and Manly. It was widely reported despite being a junior/rookie player he would challenge the senior players and show 0 respect when competing with them in training and it caused him a good few issues. Off field fall outs with team mates at both clubs got him the reputation as being a trouble causer.

Fighting with the NRL poster boy after a night out was the final straw but there were reports of friction before that at Manly as he was trying to take the mantle of the dominant half over club and I think at the time possibly Australian captain.

He clearly has traits in him that make him want to be the best he can be and test himself at the highest level. Having had one crack at it and the league turning his back on him because of his perceived bad attitude I’m sure he feels he has unfinished business.

I think the spell in SL however long it lasts has seen him manage to mature and learn to control that competitive edge that he has and he has shown with his performances over here he can now kick on and achieve his potential.

Having that ultra competitive attitude is what will make him want another go at the NRL but it is also what makes him the talent he is. He is clearly an ambitious lad and in our code particularly if you are Australian the only way to truly prove yourself is in the NRL.

Re: Hastings : Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:34 am  

jonh wrote:

Hold on there Whiffy. Take a breath and read what I put.

At no point have I said Hastings is a world class player. I don’t think any player can really be regarded as world class unless they are playing in the NRL with a few notable exception.

What I did say is Hastings is a world class competitor. He has a massive desire to win and be “the man” in the squad and this has been highlighted by his time at the Roosters and Manly. It was widely reported despite being a junior/rookie player he would challenge the senior players and show 0 respect when competing with them in training and it caused him a good few issues. Off field fall outs with team mates at both clubs got him the reputation as being a trouble causer.

Fighting with the NRL poster boy after a night out was the final straw but there were reports of friction before that at Manly as he was trying to take the mantle of the dominant half over club and I think at the time possibly Australian captain.

He clearly has traits in him that make him want to be the best he can be and test himself at the highest level. Having had one crack at it and the league turning his back on him because of his perceived bad attitude I’m sure he feels he has unfinished business.

I think the spell in SL however long it lasts has seen him manage to mature and learn to control that competitive edge that he has and he has shown with his performances over here he can now kick on and achieve his potential.

Having that ultra competitive attitude is what will make him want another go at the NRL but it is also what makes him the talent he is. He is clearly an ambitious lad and in our code particularly if you a Australian the only way to truly prove yourself is in the NRL.

Spot on

Re: Hastings : Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:57 am  

Hastings reminds me very much of Shaun Edwards, a 100% competitor who loves playing and gives his all. He doesn't suffer fools or shirkers, I believe he had a few choice words to some of the players on the coach back from Cas.
He's a winner and if he rubs a few players/fans up the wrong way, tough .

Re: Hastings : Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:17 pm  

jonh wrote:

Hold on there Whiffy. Take a breath and read what I put.

At no point have I said Hastings is a world class player. I don’t think any player can really be regarded as world class unless they are playing in the NRL with a few notable exception.

What I did say is Hastings is a world class competitor. He has a massive desire to win and be “the man” in the squad and this has been highlighted by his time at the Roosters and Manly. It was widely reported despite being a junior/rookie player he would challenge the senior players and show 0 respect when competing with them in training and it caused him a good few issues. Off field fall outs with team mates at both clubs got him the reputation as being a trouble causer.

Fighting with the NRL poster boy after a night out was the final straw but there were reports of friction before that at Manly as he was trying to take the mantle of the dominant half over club and I think at the time possibly Australian captain.

He clearly has traits in him that make him want to be the best he can be and test himself at the highest level. Having had one crack at it and the league turning his back on him because of his perceived bad attitude I’m sure he feels he has unfinished business.

I think the spell in SL however long it lasts has seen him manage to mature and learn to control that competitive edge that he has and he has shown with his performances over here he can now kick on and achieve his potential.

Having that ultra competitive attitude is what will make him want another go at the NRL but it is also what makes him the talent he is. He is clearly an ambitious lad and in our code particularly if you are Australian the only way to truly prove yourself is in the NRL.

I read that first bit wrong, no probs

Re: Hastings : Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:37 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Hastings reminds me very much of Shaun Edwards, a 100% competitor who loves playing and gives his all. He doesn't suffer fools or shirkers, I believe he had a few choice words to some of the players on the coach back from Cas.
He's a winner and if he rubs a few players/fans up the wrong way, tough .

Well, most of those fans you're advising to suck it up are also winners. They've seen trophies lifted many times.

If Jackson does that, I'm sure he'll be equally a hero to Hanley, Edwards, Lockers etc. But if the Coronavirus restricts him to only a handful of meaningless games in Cherry and White then I'm sure you won't begrudge those same fans the right to weigh his achievements (several excellent games, but not enough to be significant, sadly) against his oft-reported lack of enthusiasm for being at Wigan?

Look ... I know we shouldn't believe the eyewash that Salford fans who couldn't believe they ended up with such a good player come out with. He signed for Wigan, didn't re-sign for them and all that jazz. But there were odd things during the brief period between, and within three months of first appearing in our colours, he's looking elsewhere ???

None of this is good, mate.

Re: Hastings : Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:50 am  

Where has he said he is looking elsewhere? His passion for Wigan can be seen in every game he plays.

Re: Hastings : Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:19 pm  

I can’t believe any Wigan fan thinks Hastings is “a” let alone “the” problem at Wigan. He is a real asset to your team and anyone that can’t see that needs to consider whether rl is the game for them.