Re: Letter from Leneghan : Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:23 am  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

The FA are a classic example of jumping on the bandwagon with clubs ordered to have the BLM slogan on the back of shirts when eight months ago, clubs were told that they had not to put poppies on shirts as it was political.

Sheer hypocrisy on the part of the FA.



ALL LIVES MATTER IRRESPECTIVE OF COLOUR, RACE OR RELIGION.

I am not certain it was the fa who stopped poppys being worn, i thought it was fifa? Now there is a racist organisation

Re: Letter from Leneghan : Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:35 am  

It was FIFA. PL clubs have always worn poppies and some players are able to choose not to as per their right.

International sides are not allowed to wear one.

Re: Letter from Leneghan : Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:39 am  

We’re players able to but wear BLM on their shirts like poppies? Not that wouldn’t want to, weird eh that pep. Got fined by the FA for wearing a yellow ribbon in support of a Catalonian independence as it was political

Re: Letter from Leneghan : Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:00 am  

Pieman wrote:

We’re players able to but wear BLM on their shirts like poppies? Not that wouldn’t want to, weird eh that pep. Got fined by the FA for wearing a yellow ribbon in support of a Catalonian independence as it was political

Black lives matter isn't political though. It has nothing to do with BLMUK.

Re: Letter from Leneghan : Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:02 am  

JonnyBroad wrote:

I am not certain it was the fa who stopped poppys being worn, i thought it was fifa? Now there is a racist organisation

Correct

Re: Letter from Leneghan : Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:03 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

It was FIFA. PL clubs have always worn poppies and some players are able to choose not to as per their right.

International sides are not allowed to wear one.

Correct

Re: Letter from Leneghan : Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:19 am  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

The FA are a classic example of jumping on the bandwagon with clubs ordered to have the BLM slogan on the back of shirts when eight months ago, clubs were told that they had not to put poppies on shirts as it was political.

Sheer hypocrisy on the part of the FA.

ALL LIVES MATTER IRRESPECTIVE OF COLOUR, RACE OR RELIGION.

Not correct
Not correct
Yes, coorect, but just as "Save the children" or "Help the aged" doesnt mean that the other one doesnt matter, or wearing a badge in support of the fight against prostate cancer doesnt mean you want other cancers to continue, the message of Black Lives Matter doesnt mean sod everyone else.

BTW

The shirt tribute was proposed by a group of Premier League captains and Professional Footballers’ Association representatives, with moves under way to ensure kit is prepared appropriately. One club told the Guardian their kit staff had been primed to order shirts reflecting that change.

And I'm led to believe the players were also behind it.

And also

This week the Premier League confirmed it would not be bringing in the Rooney Rule, requiring at least one BAME candidate to be interviewed for a coaching vacancy.

The Brighton manager, Graham Potter, says the situation surrounding opportunities for black and other minority coaches must nonetheless be addressed.

“With football, you want it to be meritocratic, you want it to be the best person gets the job, and that’s what we all think it should be,” he said. “But the realities of the historical situation, for whatever reason, [are] that hasn’t been able to happen and we have to understand why that is. Why is it a disadvantage to be black in this country? Why are there not enough coaches and managers that are black in football? We have to understand the historical context and educate ourselves around that in order to understand today and the context we face now.”

Good on Graham Potter

Re: Letter from Leneghan : Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:43 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Black lives matter isn't political though. It has nothing to do with BLMUK.

its financially linked to the democratic party in the US so it is, im not saying they shouldnt use it was just asking did they get a choice like players do with poppies, not a 'ha ha' statement was a genuine question

Re: Letter from Leneghan : Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:09 am  

Pieman wrote:

its financially linked to the democratic party in the US so it is, im not saying they shouldnt use it was just asking did they get a choice like players do with poppies, not a 'ha ha' statement was a genuine question

No. BLMUK is political. Saying that Black Lives Matter is NOT political nor is it connected to BLMUK.

Re: Letter from Leneghan : Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:11 am  

Pieman wrote:

its financially linked to the democratic party in the US so it is, im not saying they shouldnt use it was just asking did they get a choice like players do with poppies, not a 'ha ha' statement was a genuine question

Have you got links to that evidence?

“We do not now, nor have we ever, endorsed or affiliated with the Democratic Party, or with any party,” the Black Lives Matter network said in a response posted to its Facebook page on Sunday. “The Democratic Party, like the Republican and all political parties, have historically attempted to control or contain black people’s efforts to liberate ourselves. True change requires real struggle, and that struggle will be in the streets and led by the people, not by a political party.”

Once again I am not defending the political movement (BLMUK) just the message.