Re: Formula One 2013 : Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:39 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

First off, I don't know jack about F1 ("Same as football then", someone will say).

This Vettel-Webber thing. Is it a genuine scandal around the rest of the world, or is it the English media bias that is favouring the convict over the German?

During the race was Vettel behind Webber and overtook him to win the race? If that's the case couldn't Webber have just raced him as a competitor?

When Schumacher was F1 King at Ferrari, would Ferrari have ever ordered him to let his team mate take the first place? If they didn't, wouldn't Schumacher have done the same as Vettel if he was getting those orders?

From an non-F1 fan it all seems like a fuss over nothing to me. Vettel is the World Champion Driver. I'd kind of expect him to fight an order to let his team mate win if it meant it could cost him the title.

Vettel's said that Webber has never backed him that much anyway. Is there any truth in that or is he just re-writing history?

Vettel believes that Webber should play second fiddle to him every time. I think the reason that Webber was hacked off was becasuse there were team orders given out to the drivers to stay in position but Vettel said he didn't understand ( he's lying ) so overtook Webber. Schumacher was untouchable at Ferrari and would never ever have been asked to let his team mate ever pass him as that would never have been thought of by the Ferrari team. I doubt very much even if Vettel had stayed behing Webber it'd cause problems for him to retain his title at all. There is no truth in Vettel saying that Webber hasn't backed him much. It's crystal clear as to who gets preferrential treartment in Red Bull.

Re: Formula One 2013 : Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:12 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

First off, I don't know jack about F1 ("Same as football then", someone will say).

This Vettel-Webber thing. Is it a genuine scandal around the rest of the world, or is it the English media bias that is favouring the convict over the German?

During the race was Vettel behind Webber and overtook him to win the race? If that's the case couldn't Webber have just raced him as a competitor?

When Schumacher was F1 King at Ferrari, would Ferrari have ever ordered him to let his team mate take the first place? If they didn't, wouldn't Schumacher have done the same as Vettel if he was getting those orders?

From an non-F1 fan it all seems like a fuss over nothing to me. Vettel is the World Champion Driver. I'd kind of expect him to fight an order to let his team mate win if it meant it could cost him the title.

Vettel's said that Webber has never backed him that much anyway. Is there any truth in that or is he just re-writing history?

When your team tell you to do something you should do it.
Webber was doing exactly as he was told but Vettel attacked and passed him after they were told in code not to.
It is poop housing no doubt about it.
Vettel is a lose cannon Webber isn't so Webber was never going to act in the same way as the spoilt little German shoite head.
Another German in Rosberg was told to hold station and unlike his fellow countryman did as he was told even though it seriously annoyed him.

Team fighting happens you only have to look at yesterday to see that 'Tell him to calm down' from JB was funny to hear but the team let them get on with it generally.
But when they are told to stop it then they should Vettel thinks he can do whatever he want's however.

Re: Formula One 2013 : Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:36 pm  

Where's next stop for the circus of despots then? North Korea? The Iranian GP has a nice ring to it providing someone can stump up the cash to persuade Bernie it's a good idea?

[John_D]

Re: Formula One 2013 : Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:41 am  

Andy Gilder wrote: Where's next stop for the circus of despots then? North Korea? The Iranian GP has a nice ring to it providing someone can stump up the cash to persuade Bernie it's a good idea? Well he didn't totally rule out Syria when asked by Dan Roan the other day. Meanwhile, I wrote this about a year ago.

Andy Gilder wrote: Where's next stop for the circus of despots then? North Korea? The Iranian GP has a nice ring to it providing someone can stump up the cash to persuade Bernie it's a good idea? Well he didn't totally rule out Syria when asked by Dan Roan the other day. Meanwhile, I wrote this about a year ago.