: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:42 pm  

Asks the question

If this never happened, would we still be fenced in like animals at games in 2009?

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:43 pm  

Ande wrote:

Asks the question

If this never happened, would we still be fenced in like animals at games in 2009?

Potentially, they still are at some European grounds.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:46 pm  

'Justice for the 96' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8000635.stm Seeing the faces and names of the 96 really hit me I don't cry alot but I was in bits when they showed that.

'Justice for the 96' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8000635.stm Seeing the faces and names of the 96 really hit me I don't cry alot but I was in bits when they showed that.

[Karen]

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:13 pm  

WANDERER wrote:

Seeing the names listed and looking again at the ages - predominently young people with so much life potentially in front of them. What a tragedy.

That's what my 13 year old said at the end of the Memorial Service when all the names and photos were shown. I just looked at him and the thought of him going to any game and him not returning just breaks my heart.

Liverpool TV on Sky 434 is free today and has programmes looking back all day. Some very interesting interviews on there.

[Karen]

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:15 pm  

Nemanja wrote:

Potentially, they still are at some European grounds.

It always makes me shudder when I watch European games and still see the cages at the bottom of stands.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:19 pm  

Karen xx wrote:

It always makes me shudder when I watch European games and still see the cages at the bottom of stands.

I think theres a ground in france where the cage has a roof on it too,

There was problems in france a few years back in a champions league game involving Man Utd where too many fans got penned into a small space, then the french police decided to try and calm them down by firing Tear Gas.

[Karen]

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:21 pm  

Brew wrote:

I think theres a ground in france where the cage has a roof on it too,

There was problems in france a few years back in a champions league game involving Man Utd where too many fans got penned into a small space, then the french police decided to try and calm them down by firing Tear Gas.

Unbelievable

When will people ever learn that sometimes, just sometimes, the fans aren't the ones to blame.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:22 pm  

Brew wrote:

I think theres a ground in france where the cage has a roof on it too,

There was problems in france a few years back in a champions league game involving Man Utd where too many fans got penned into a small space, then the french police decided to try and calm them down by firing Tear Gas.

Yeah that was shocking i remember that

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:22 pm  

Brew wrote:

I think theres a ground in france where the cage has a roof on it too,

There was problems in france a few years back in a champions league game involving Man Utd where too many fans got penned into a small space, then the french police decided to try and calm them down by firing Tear Gas.

Aye, we were playing Lille. Shocking that UEFA allow grounds like that to stage such big matches.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:25 pm  

The inquiry into the disaster led by Lord Chief Justice Taylor established that main cause was a failure of police crowd control. "Accountability has always lain with South Yorkshire Police. The Taylor report was quite clear in where blame lay," said the force chief constable. "South Yorkshire Police fully accept their responsibility for the Hillsborough disaster. "The force knows where it went wrong in a flawed operation and the leadership issues that led to the deaths of so many people." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7998231.stm

The inquiry into the disaster led by Lord Chief Justice Taylor established that main cause was a failure of police crowd control. "Accountability has always lain with South Yorkshire Police. The Taylor report was quite clear in where blame lay," said the force chief constable. "South Yorkshire Police fully accept their responsibility for the Hillsborough disaster. "The force knows where it went wrong in a flawed operation and the leadership issues that led to the deaths of so many people." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7998231.stm