Yeah he was - there's always a doubt over the trip but again I think they've over-reacted to the strength of the British/Irish horses, if we were really 6-7lbs better than our continental cousins then I'd be all over the likes of Cape Blanco but Workforce obviously improved from the Dante and was a different horse today as Stoute left a fair bit to work on.



3/1 about a horse in a 23 runner Group 1 is a nonsense price and I'll go through the other leading contenders and why I've ruled them out:



Planteur - I've been all over this horse for this race since last winter when I was impressed by a run over 9f, he has a top jockey on board in Anthony Crastus and has beaten the Epsom third Rewilding already this season. Just not that keen on taking 5/1 about a horse in a 23 runner race.



Ice Blue - Won both his trials as a 3yo most notably over 10f at Saint-Cloud last time out, was previously a scorer over 11f and gives the impression that he might be more of a Grand Prix De Paris horse than a Derby horse.



Behkabad - Been the buzzhorse for this since last Autumn and is a well bred sort for Frances top numbers trainer with IMO the best jockey in the world booked to ride. Had the run of the race last time out when able to slow it up and then kick on off the final turn and I have a feeling he might find one or two too good.



Simon De Montfort - Shown improved form as a 3yo for Andre Fabre prior to being switched to the Newmarket stable of Mahmood Al Zarooni. There was a chance Godolphin could have had Maxime Guyon on Mickael Barzalona riding in the big race, they have Ahmed Ajtebi instead. That should be enough to stop him from winning.



Sorry for not answering your query on Flo Jo earlier Wire_85 - I won't be backing her tomorrow unless she's a ridiculous price, 7/2 or so as IMO she needs a drop back to 7f having shown so much speed in both the Imprudence and the French Guineas.

All aboard Royal Bench then





Workforce was in another league today

I'm staying away from this thread. Not had a winner all week. Awful.

Going for bulls today off scratch, also daft bet on all super league games going under on points 4 timer



Good luck all.

Brighton 4.30 Hi Shinko 16/1 E/W



Claimer taking 3 lbs off only 1 lb higher then last win



Done Royal Bench again @ 40/1 E/W with Sky bet as they pay 4 places and thats with Simon De Montfort as a non runner.

How much did you put on Royal Bench? In to 28/1 now!

Not enough to do that





You can get 40s elsewhere but don't think they pay 4 places but PP have it @ 28/1 without big fav Cape Blanco in the field.

Had two bets yesterday, a tenner on Iventor at Hexham and a free bet of £20 on Jan Vermeer, so relatively happy.

Bulls not at the races today - They are a team I find very difficult to predict.



Haven't had a bet yet today.

Done Quins -6.

had the bulls and wigan to beat the handicap, one way off and one last minute kick in the teeth

quins to save the day?

hope you was on the giants today .. i was!



11/8

Easy money.

... and talking of easy money.

I know it is a while away, but it seems as if he will be lightly campaigned and still have enough left come October. St Nicholas Abbey for the Arc. The talent is there and I'm certain he will pick up a big race before the season is over to silence all of his bashers at the Guineas.

Started the weekend with £5 left in my betting account and stuck it all on Cas +18, so got lucky with that one.





Then I put my winnings on Quins -6, now I've put all them winnings on South Sydney -6 and so far so good

Naas 15:10 Ferocious Fran 14/1 E/W



2 lengths behind fav on first ever race while giving it weight, should be better for the experience of that race and also gets weight this time.



Been given Mosman Park 5/1 Listowel 14:50



Naas 14:40 Mobus Wan 14/1 E/W



This is probs the most weird bet on a horse I have done haha its been racing over in Jersey and makes its debut for its new yard today, trying to work out some sort of RPR it can run to could be 70-80 which could put it in the frame here its going off 9st 4lb which is alot less then the near 11st its done in Jersey

heard a whisper from the johnson yard for epic .8.15 pontefract 22/1 v.c



chosen one.9.15. ponte 9/2 one to keep on side off too in its present form

Chosen One has been on fire of late and could add to his tally once more, agreed.

Mosman Park wins at 8/1 the other two were just awful

Just noticed King Of Swords is running in the last at Ponte...



Not backed it as I've only just seen it, but backed it on all five runs this season.. It's a course winner and slipping back down to a winning mark, with it not carrying my cash it will probably win.

Really hope this lack of winners is because I'm off to Haydock on June 19th. I'm off with a minibus of mates who're off to see JLS (I know) and i think i'm the only one off for the gee gees. Its not a bad day out £29 all in.

Oh dear

Tell me about it, i think i'll sit at the back of the crowds with a few drinks and hope that they aren't on longer than 10mins!

Spirit Of Adjisa and Beyond double



E/W acca of



Bangor 18:50 Beyond 4/5

Southwell 19:05 Cannon Fire 4/5

Bangor 19:20 Marc Aurele 11/4

Bangor 21:20 Spirit Of Adjisa 5/6

Southwell 19:35 Oursininlaw 6/5