Re: More Football Chat : Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:14 pm  

I can see what you're getting at RR but posting a referee in an opposing teams shirt is essential calling the ref a cheat. Is it not? You would get sent off for that in today's game. I have no idea what Rooney was saying...probably something on the lines of 'that was shat'.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:16 pm  

Bizarre if Bent signs for Villa. I assume he's fallen out with Bruce. I wonder if Ashley Young's future is in doubt?

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:18 pm  

Was a good game yesterday, quite entertaining and a fair result to boot. Can say I've seen more blatent pens not given though...then again a few Reds in the pub were getting a bit angry so it was probably for the best that it was a draw, it was about to kick off.

Just a Q though, when did Agger become such a good/ important player for LFC? That was why LFC never won the game because he went off and he's also now the 'spine' of the team which could get in the big clubs in the PL?

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:19 pm  

richardviking wrote:

Bizarre if Bent signs for Villa. I assume he's fallen out with Bruce. I wonder if Ashley Young's future is in doubt?

Villa, despite their youngsters, are a sinking ship IMO. Would be the step in the wrong direction.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:22 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

You are missing the point completely. The point I'm making is; the FA will charge somebody for a jovial picture, but won't charge somebody for disgracing the game and ferociously abusing a referee on the pitch. I seen Rooney square right up to the ref and shout repeatedly at him, one can only assume swear words, yet nothing is done of it, it isn't even repeated. Does common sense not tell you what is the bigger crime here?

Players challenge refs week in/out and it's been that way ever since I first watched football so it's hardly likely to change.

What Babel did was silly and was deliberately calling a ref a cheat, at least players challenging the ref are done in the heat of a game.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:24 pm  

Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:

Was a good game yesterday, quite entertaining and a fair result to boot. Can say I've seen more blatent pens not given though...then again a few Reds in the pub were getting a bit angry so it was probably for the best that it was a draw, it was about to kick off.

Just a Q though, when did Agger become such a good/ important player for LFC? That was why LFC never won the game because he went off and he's also now the 'spine' of the team which could get in the big clubs in the PL?

Agger has been a class player since he came here, he's always been good, but he's always been injured. I know you're being sarcy, joking about the excuses people come up with after the game, but the point I think they were making was quite clear: losing your best centre half halfway through a game doesn't help, coincidentally, we conceded two goals straight after he went off. Still, he's one of the best defenders in the league, if you don't rate him, fair enough.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:29 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

Agger has been a class player since he came here, he's always been good, but he's always been injured. I know you're being sarcy, joking about the excuses people come up with after the game, but the point I think they were making was quite clear: losing your best centre half halfway through a game doesn't help, coincidentally, we conceded two goals straight after he went off. Still, he's one of the best defenders in the league, if you don't rate him, fair enough.

Wasn't he getting overlooked all the time by Rafa, he has been supposedly wanting to leave for a while for not getting enough games until Kenny brought him back against Utd in the cup.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:33 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

Agger has been a class player since he came here, he's always been good, but he's always been injured. I know you're being sarcy, joking about the excuses people come up with after the game, but the point I think they were making was quite clear: losing your best centre half halfway through a game doesn't help, coincidentally, we conceded two goals straight after he went off. Still, he's one of the best defenders in the league, if you don't rate him, fair enough.

I wasn't being sarcy about anything fella.

I just don't see what all the hype is with Agger. Much the same with Jagielka with us. Jags can be a great defender but has brain farts far too often to be considered one of the best in the country. I think Agger is very ordinary/ steady, middle of the road. Not a patch on Hyypia or Carragher in their hay day.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:45 pm  

Bent has handed in a transfer request, so isnt happy with something.

Re: More Football Chat : Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:46 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

Players challenge refs week in/out and it's been that way ever since I first watched football so it's hardly likely to change.

What Babel did was silly and was deliberately calling a ref a cheat, at least players challenging the ref are done in the heat of a game.

Managers question refereeing decisions after the game, does that mean they insinuate cheating? If the manager finds a decision so blatantly wrong, what else are they suggesting when they openly question decisions after games?

The FA are stupidly pedantic with the things they come out with. I remember Rafa getting charged for taking his glasses off and slamming them on the table post game, because the FA seen it as some sort of visual code for the referee being blind. Yet managers come out after every game and say things like "you all seen how bad it was", "I won't talk about it as you can all clearly make your own assumptions", they all question decisions and disagree with decisions. I just can't understand why Babel retweeting a picture has to be taken further, yet a player absolutely disgracing the sport, setting the complete wrong example and absolutely belittling a referee on the field gets absolute nothing done to it. What's the excuse? It's always happened? Everybody else does it? So that makes it alright, then?

As for the Rafael decision, you see them yellow carded so often. It's alright saying 'he couldn't do anything else', but that's why some players do it, intently accidental, they still stop the opposition's move at a good moment, but it comes across as an accident and doesn't deserve a booking. He should have been off for his first challenge if Webb's rulebook is anything to go by, so for him to go so late on, you should be grateful.