I saw 'he likea do the cha-cha, like a sissy girl'.

By Brown and Duffen cashing in on Turner. Their approach to the coming season has shown almost zero ambition, they're almost guaranteed to be bottom 2 IMO, so I don't think it will be long before the 4 or 5 top-flight level players move on TBH. They've had a great opportunity and not shown enough intent to make the most of it. They don't deserve to be in the premier league.

I actually think Turner will stay until January as i dont think anyone will match our asking orice of £12m,



Have to say i kind of agree about the lack of ambition we should of been looking to build on last season but it now looks like the squad for the opening game is gunna be weaker than last season and will be 20 times harder this season to stay up

Brown and Duffen look to have blown it to me, unless they can produce 3/4 decent signings in the next month. Brown is a clown at times, I think he is looking for a move off the back of the job he's done at City.

He can't be that bad otherwise he would have gone to Geordie land and that joke of a club

Maybe the Newcastle job, where he could have the recruitment done for him. His efforts in the transfer market have been pretty woeful overall.

They won't, because it's ridiculous. But I think £9m could shift him and is possibly attainable. It makes me laugh that Brown has criticised the inflated prices about but then contradicted it with Turner. Also, he complained he couldn't even sign championship players (Ledley & McCormack) for less than £5m, whilst having a £6m bid on the table for Fraizer Campbell, on the basis of 1 good championship season. He likes making noises but talks little sense. It's like the Ricketts sale, he's now said he was offered Nicky Hunt as part of the deal but wasn't interested. Why not? He's a decent right back, certainly better than not having one at all, or possibly paying a small fortune for 31 year old Habib Beye.



I agree it's a weaker squad with a more difficult task in prospect. I still think Duffen and Brown have one eye on the championship TBH, and that's what's held them back. The talk of Owen was complete rubbish, he was never going to even contemplate playing for Hull City. I can't think of a single player linked to them this summer who fits the criteria of the sort of player they need. As Paul M said, they've blown it.

Today's links are with Beye, Barton and Jozy Altidore for £6m from Villareal. It seems to me they need two strikers and another midfielder, preferably a wide player if Bullard is going to be fit. The defence looks decent enough with the new signing, Gardner, Turner and Zayatte. I also don't understand why Brown keeps wanting to play Mendy at fullback, he is dynamite with the ball and should be playing as a winger where he could really hurt teams with his pace.

Whitbread is a good player...in League One.



On the transfer list at Millwall because he wants to leave to play at a higher level. Though I think he's more of a Championship standard player, so maybe he'll fit in at Hull.



At Liverpool he showed some promise, but like so many youngsters (wrongly or rightly) was let go.

I'm really surprised that Hull haven't tried to pick a few off the clubs that went down, there's a few there that would do a decent job, and must have some ambition to stay in the top flight.



Ishmael Miller I like, Gary O'Neil would give Hull some width say. Arca is a decent footballer. Tuncay is a headless chicken but he'd give you 100% and in a side with few legs to get about, he'd give you that.



I just can't see the sense in Barton, aside from his obvious issues, he's another run of the mill, central midfielder.

For me they needed (and still need) a right back, a central midfielder or 2, a left winger and at least 2 strikers.



What's most bizarre is that there have been plenty of players in the positions they want potentially on the move, but they've either shown little interest or an unwillingness to stump up the money. Instead they prioritised a young, unproven in the top-flight kid who continually messed them about and a pipe dream of Michael Owen.



What they should have been looking at IMO is the likes of Huddlestone, Ashton, Brunt, Doyle, Derbyshire, Commons, and maybe some younger loanees/gambles like Gibson and Jonathan Spector. As said, unlike Brown I'd have also been interested in Hunt. Gudjohnsen would also have been a more realistic big name to go for than Owen, particularly with the Bolton links.

In some ways I think Owen was a more realistic target than Gudjohnsen. Looking back from now, with Owen very happily set up at United, it'd seem that they were never in with a realistic chance of getting him. But when Hull were going after Owen there was only Stoke City being mentioned as being interested in him.



I don't know what's happening with Gudjohnsen, so if he's in the process of signing up for some dire side like Hull I'll be proven wrong, but I'd just think he'd think of packing it in if Hull City are the calibre of side he's attracting. Owen going from the jokers at Newcastle to Hull was at least a move back to the PL, but Gudjohnsen would be going from the Spanish and European Champions to Hull.

All of those players would improve City as would some of the names JWP mentioned in his post. It's not rocket science, for me it show the cluelessness of the manager and the lack of ambition of the chairman. I honestly can't see a way City can stay up unless they produce 3/4 good signings before the end of the month.

Personally I think Owen would have gone abroad before signing for any team not expected to compete for a european place. Also his reaction to the Hull interest even before Man Utd entering the frame showed that he considered it laughable.



Gudjohnsen from a playing perspective is still quite unlikely, but you never know how his previous experience of Phil Brown could affect the chances. The last I heard of him was that he was interested in Celtic. Now aside from the historical name, that's almost as much of a step down in calibre IMO.

Exactly right. It's not like they've been unlucky with signings, or there's no suitable options about. The fact is they've simply been found incredibly wanting and are looking odds on to receive the consequences. Still, they'll have made a few bob, which is looking more and more like the priority for them.

All of which is a real shame as they had a genuine chance this season of cementing themselves as a PL club with 4/5 shrewd signings and taking a little bit of a gamble.









I see Guillem Balague has said that Utd and Valencia have spoken about David Silva but as yet no offer has been made for the player.

Taylor > Kadar > Mouyokolo

Senderos to Everton.

Hull needed to 'do a Sunderland'. They got their lucky break last year, now they had to build massively on it, back the manager and do everything they can to stay in the league. I doubt they have the investment of Sunderland, but they have to bring in a lot of players, their squad looked massively weak after a few months in the league, the defence was woeful and attack non-existent for large parts of the season. If Hull's transfer window carries on like this, and they try to stick with the same side, they will have to have an even luckier year than last season. Hull were more than bad enough to go down last year, they need to put their future in their hands, they can't risk all the other teams having woeful seasons again.

Paving the way for Lescott to City?



Is Moyes pushing his luck with this signing? He's signed some diamonds in the rough in the past and most of the time they've pulled off. Senderos, I think is a pretty good player. Has most of the attributes you want in a defender, he's big, strong and aerially dominant, he reads the game pretty well at times, too. I think Moyes can turn him into a better player than Wenger can, but there's no doubting his brain farts.

Just seen us linked with that Defour at Liege. He's always looked good when I've watched him play, which is about 4/5 times for Liege and a few times for Belgium. I also liked the looks of Axel Witsel, who looks a real classy player.

Think Everton are being linked with a £12m move for Defour too. Would you be happy with Aquilani? I have not seen a great deal of him tbh.

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