Mugwump wrote:
Unfortunately, you appear to be forgetting the fact that the Slovenian keeper is highly rated and expected to sign for one of the top teams in Italy, Spain or England this summer.
I couldn't give a toss if he's claimed to be the re-incarnation of Jesus Christ. Rooney should have buried the chance and there'd have been no criticism of the keeper at all. It was Rooney's miss-hit shot into the hand of an already diving keeper which meant it was a save rather than a goal, and nothing special that the keeper did.
Your point would be valid if we were talking about some guy they'd dug out of the Conference. He isn't.
My point is that putting Rooney through one-on-one with the keeper, where he has time and space to control the ball and pick his shot, should result in a goal no matter who the 'keeper is.
I seriously doubt "any critic" would've said "a TOP CLASS keeper isn't expected to make saves when 1-on-1 with top quality strikers in that position". In any case - you can't discount the role of sheer bloody chance. Even a pub football keeper can be lucky.
And even the top rated forward in England can miss a sitter, which Rooney did. If Heskey or Crouch had produced that shot there wouldn't have been this desperate attempt to paint it as a fantastic save, they'd have been loading the gun to shoot them for being so krap at their job.
I think you need to watch that save again. There's a reason guys like Beckenbauer, Muller & Eusebio rate it as one of - if not the greatest save in history. It strikes me that you're one of these people who discount the achievements and capabilities of goalkeepers - certainly their ability to PREVENT goals at the highest level against the greatest of opponents.
I watched it again before I posted. I still stand by what I said. The only remarkable thing about the save was the fact it was pushed over the goal instead of to Banks's left or in front of Banks.
I think the cross from Brazil was excellent, I think Pele's leap to win the header was text book perfection, the power Pele got on the header was okay, the direction of the header - down so the ball bounced in front of the keeper was the right choice. I don't hold the defender in any way to blame as it was a great cross and a great challenge by Pele. I think Banks made a very good save from the header. I just don't think it's worthy of all the tugging that it's had over it. It was a very good save from Banks after very good play from Brazil. Applause all round from me. I just don't agree with the accolades it gets as one of the best saves ever.
There really is no point discussing football with someone who cannot put aside tribal loyalties to look objectively at the game.
It's got **** all to do with tribal loyalties.
John Terry's ridiculous pass in the first half that got us in trouble was extremely annoying. As someone who watches JT in every club match I was staggered he came out with that pass as he is usually rock solid.
Lampard's shot from the edge of the area was pi55 poor and I probably looked away with just as much anger as the scousers and Mancs that hate him.
Wasn't really watching Ashley Cole enough to take note of whether he was playing well or not.
I've been one of the few people on this forum who's been saying what a dreadful season Joe Cole has had and wasn't surprised in any way when he produced nothing of any note whatsoever when he came on.
I prefer Liverpool (I wouldn't call myself a fan) but I applaud good play from any club - whether it be United, Arsenal or Chelsea. From what I saw of last season Rooney deserved every accolade that came his way. Let's not forget that he is UNIVERSALLY rated by his peers at the highest level - whether they be in the Premiership or Serie A, Spain etc. THAT counts for far more than your bitter and hopelessly biased diatribe.
Didier Drogba outscored Rooney last season. Didier Drogba had a lot more assists than Rooney last season. Didier Drogba led Chelsea to the league and FA Cup double while Rooney came second in the league and won the Carling Cup with United.
But somehow finishing second to Drogba in the scoring charts, finishing way behind Drogba's assists, finishing second in the league to Drogba's side, getting knocked out of the FA Cup by Leeds U****ingnited at home is somehow worthy of getting PotY without any discussion?
What I will say is that Drogba was immense last season and played a major part in CFC winning the double. Even though he's an utter tvvat at time I love the guy for the good he brings. And in his best season he's only just ahead of Rooney shows that Rooney is a fantastic player. But there's no real justification for lauding Rooney for last season other than England is just too far up Yanited's ar5e for it's won good.
But even the best players can be halted by good goalkeeping. Rooney aimed for the corner (not at the keeper) and the ball would have nestled there if it had not been for a full length, finger-tip save by an excellent keeper (who denied England on several occasions). No coach worth his salt would criticise Rooney's attempt. But feel free to carry on munching those sour grapes.
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Well at least if Coleen decides she no longer wants to give head you'll be an eager stand in for her.
If the game was paused when Rooney took that ball pretty much 100% of all coaches, critics and supporters would have said Rooney should score.
If you look and rate Rooney's connection with the ball, it simply wasn't hit well enough.
The keeper got lucky in that his dive was right where Rooney placed the ball, because if that happened again Rooney could have taken an extra touch and just rolled the ball into an empty net with the keeper on the floor.
If Frank Lampard had produced that shot in that position no one on here would be lauding the keeper for it.
