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| The fact that Terry got banned, nearly cost them the semi and nearly cost them the final by being banned, should really have told John to not lap up the celebrations as much as others. But, as expected, everything's about him, just like he had to take the penalty in Moscow, he had to get kitted up and lift the cup when so many people deserved it more. Look at Barca last year when they let Abidal lift it, somebody that deserved it that pulled through illness, not cowards like Terry who knee oppo players in the back then try and claim innocence.
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| Quote Roddy B="Roddy B"The fact that Terry got banned, nearly cost them the semi and nearly cost them the final by being banned, should really have told John to not lap up the celebrations as much as others. But, as expected, everything's about him, just like he had to take the penalty in Moscow, he had to get kitted up and lift the cup when so many people deserved it more. Look at Barca last year when they let Abidal lift it, somebody that deserved it that pulled through illness, not cowards like Terry who knee oppo players in the back then try and claim innocence.'"
No Roddy
to quote St John of Terry himself, in the aftermatch interview with Jeff Shreeves "I'm not that kind of player"
That line alone, was funnier than a 6 hour non-stop Ken Dodd marathon of quickfire gags.
Terry is a self obsessed prick of the highest order.
As I said. Well done Chelsea.
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| Quote Roddy B="Roddy B"The fact that Terry got banned, nearly cost them the semi and nearly cost them the final by being banned, should really have told John to not lap up the celebrations as much as others. But, as expected, everything's about him, just like he had to take the penalty in Moscow, he had to get kitted up and lift the cup when so many people deserved it more. Look at Barca last year when they let Abidal lift it, somebody that deserved it that pulled through illness, not cowards like Terry who knee oppo players in the back then try and claim innocence.'"
When you say "cowards like Terry", do you mean Gerrard? But it wasn't the same, Terry acted alone, he didn't get one of his team mates to start it and another bunch of them to join in.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Says a supporter of a rugby union club???
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WTF? Talk about putting 2 and 2 together and getting 39,432... Your credibility takes a hit the size of a very big thing...
If you really want to know, I'm St. Helens born and bred, a lifelong Saints ([uRL[/u variety) and (admittedly armchair) Liverpool fan. I live in Northampton for purely career reasons. Due to geographic and disenchantment with all things premier league considerations I was a season ticket holder at Diamonds until their tragic demise and am now settled in nicely at MK instead (and damned proud of the fact - swing away at MK all you want - I don't give a flying ****  ). I've been to Franklin's Gardens as a slightly bemused neutral once if that counts me as an RU "fan"? Send me your address and I'll send you a copy of my memoirs once they're published if you like for the full story.... It gets spicy 'round about page 92 so watch out 
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| Quote Northampton_Saint="Northampton_Saint"WTF? Talk about putting 2 and 2 together and getting 39,432... Your credibility takes a hit the size of a very big thing...
If you really want to know, I'm St. Helens born and bred, a lifelong Saints ([uRL[/u variety) and (admittedly armchair) Liverpool fan. I live in Northampton for purely career reasons. Due to geographic and disenchantment with all things premier league considerations I was a season ticket holder at Diamonds until their tragic demise and am now settled in nicely at MK instead (and damned proud of the fact - swing away at MK all you want - I don't give a flying ****
). I've been to Franklin's Gardens as a slightly bemused neutral once if that counts me as an RU "fan"? Send me your address and I'll send you a copy of my memoirs once they're published if you like for the full story.... It gets spicy 'round about page 92 so watch out
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I'd have admitted to being a Milton Keyneser, but kept the St Helens bit very quiet  , eh
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"When you say "cowards like Terry", do you mean Gerrard? But it wasn't the same, Terry acted alone, he didn't get one of his team mates to start it and another bunch of them to join in.'"
Dunno what you're on about pal. Just imagine, for one minute, that in that game against Barca, it was Ryan Bertrand that kneed Sanchez. Would you be on here going "he's a homegrown fan favourite and it was a team effort". Would you f*ck, simply put. You're only making exception because you're blind to Terry being a c*nt.
If one of my own team's players nearly cost us a European cup through an act of sheer idiocy, sheer stupidity (see Drogba slap), then I wouldn't want that player reveling in the celebrations. I'd want him to enjoy the moment but part of the punishment is to miss out on things like that. Fortunately for John, he was still able to lap it up.
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| Quote Northampton_Saint="Northampton_Saint"WTF? Talk about putting 2 and 2 together and getting 39,432... Your credibility takes a hit the size of a very big thing...'"
Your CHOSEN name is Northampton_Saint. You know that there is a RU club called the Northampton Saints. Of course many people are going to assume that you are an RU fan. We used to have a resident Richard Head RU troll. You do remind me of him.
Quote Northampton_Saintand (admittedly armchair) Liverpool fan. '"
That explains a lot.
Quote Northampton_Saintdisenchantment with all things premier league '"
Apart from being pi55ed that Liverpool are struggling to compete in it, why the disenchantment?
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| Quote Roddy B="Roddy B"Dunno what you're on about pal. '"
Of course you don't.
Quote Roddy BJust imagine, for one minute, that in that game against Barca, it was Ryan Bertrand that kneed Sanchez. Would you be on here going "he's a homegrown fan favourite and it was a team effort". Would you f*ck, simply put. You're only making exception because you're blind to Terry being a c*nt.'"
On one hand, Terry was exceptionally stupid for doing what he did. He very nearly cost us the game, and it's a miracle it didn't.
But on the other hand, pretty much in the entire history of the goal line assistant refs they have never seen a ****ing thing, even when it's right before there eyes. They never do a thing apart from standing there, but they managed to pick up on that. Something that no one else in the stadium saw, no one in the commentary team.
But that doesn't negate what Terry did. It was stupid and he shouldn't have done it.
I know that if a player like Kalou or Bosingwa had done it then many CFC fans would have wanted them hanged for it, but I'm not one who really goes into slagging my own players off. The only player I'm not keen on is Malouda, who has done next to nothing for way too long.
But in terms of what players have given for CFC, John Terry is up there at the top for giving the most. So yes, he does get extra consideration because of what he's given
Quote Roddy BIf one of my own team's players nearly cost us a European cup through an act of sheer idiocy, sheer stupidity (see Drogba slap), then I wouldn't want that player reveling in the celebrations. I'd want him to enjoy the moment but part of the punishment is to miss out on things like that. Fortunately for John, he was still able to lap it up.'"
His punishment is to miss the final (and the next two matches). That is a massive punishment and I'm sure Terry will feel that for the rest of his life. I know that all the John Terry haters will rub it in that CFC did it without him.
But I would want pretty much everyone at CFC to be absolutely delighted that Chelsea won the Champions League. I'd want the ununsed subs to still be glad we won, I'd want the players who didn't even make the squad to be delighted that we won. Even the kit men and physios should feel it. But to want everyone to be delighted, but then sideline JT and keep him from the celebrations would be hypocritical. And I think the hypocrisy should be left at Anfield and the Emirates, where it is home.
JT is the club captain. He has led the club brilliantly and performed brilliantly for years. I believe he loves CFC and was delighted that we won. So I thought it was only right that he went up with Lampard and lifted the trophy.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Apart from being pi55ed that Liverpool are struggling to compete in it, why the disenchantment?'"
Frankly I just can't get excited at nor particularly emotionally involved in watching 22 arrogant, self-obsessed, out of touch, mercenary multi-millionaire lowlifes running around, that's all. Don't get me wrong, I still look for Liverpool's results every week and am pleased as punch when they win 'ewt, but I'm frankly a lot more annoyed these days by MK being denied a deserved promotion spot by a thin squad, no goalscorer and some well dodgy decisions going against us 'round Christmas than I am at Liverpool's appalling capitulation this season. And I'm still more than ****ed off about the fact that we were robbed of a deserved home FA Cup tie against you lot this season after our actual 3-0 win against QPR was stolen away by the worst refereeing display ever, but anyway...
I got completely disenchanted in football altogether a few years ago until my wife started dragging me down to Diamonds and reignited me as it were - at that level you see 22 hungry lads running around earning bugger all and giving their all playing entirely for the love of the game. Give me that to the Premier League multi-billionaire playground charade any day.
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| Right, John Terry's just been part of a team which has won the EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS LEAGUE and people are having a pop because he's celebrating? Have a word with yourselves.
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| Quote Northampton_Saint="Northampton_Saint"Frankly I just can't get excited at nor particularly emotionally involved in watching 22 arrogant, self-obsessed, out of touch, mercenary multi-millionaire lowlifes running around, that's all. Don't get me wrong, I still look for Liverpool's results every week and am pleased as punch when they win 'ewt, but I'm frankly a lot more annoyed these days by MK being denied a deserved promotion spot by a thin squad, no goalscorer and some well dodgy decisions going against us 'round Christmas than I am at Liverpool's appalling capitulation this season. And I'm still more than ****ed off about the fact that we were robbed of a deserved home FA Cup tie against you lot this season after our actual 3-0 win against QPR was stolen away by the worst refereeing display ever, but anyway...
I got completely disenchanted in football altogether a few years ago until my wife started dragging me down to Diamonds and reignited me as it were - at that level you see 22 hungry lads running around earning bugger all and giving their all playing entirely for the love of the game. Give me that to the Premier League multi-billionaire playground charade any day.'"
I've just read though about Rushden and Diamonds. They had £30m invested in them by Max Griggs.
The irony of you questioning how I can feel about CFC after Roman, when you followed Rushden and Diamonds and have now moved on to the MK Dons is ridiculous. I know you scousers are ****ing hypocrites and stupid, but you take the biscuit.
If you believe that the guys down at the lower ranks of pro football are all in for the love of the game then you can. I don't. I heard about a Macclesfield player who was earning £50k a year (might have been £100k, can't really remember.) A grand a week for playing for Macclesfield is completely overpaid, even compared to the stupid salaries of the top PL players.
I personally think that the main difference between PL players and players down at the conference mainly that the conference players are just bad players. But I think the attitudes, arrogance and greed that you hate about PL players is probably just as visible in a Conference dressing room as it is in the PL. You just get to see PL players drive around in Ferraris, while the conference players stretch themselves to mid-range BMW's.
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| And WTF??? Given 5hit from a SCOUSER over penalties.
The ****ing vermin needed penalties to beat Cardiff City FFS. They don't win anything nowadays if it's not by a penalty shoot out.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"
Just made up for Didier Drogba. The biggest legend in Chelsea history..'"
There were alot more pre 2004 mate, when you supported Huddersfield.
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| I hate the Chelsea, southern based loving media. Paul McCarthy is a dick, it it in no way funny that John Terry changed from a suit to a tracksuit to a kit. Wank stain.
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| Quote Mark="Mark"There were alot more pre 2004 mate, when you supported Huddersfield.'"
None come anywhere close to achieving what Didier Drogba has. Jimmy Greaves may have been a better goalscorer, but most of his career was away from Stamford Bridge. Osgood was good, but an FA Cup and CWC is no comparison to the leagues, cups and titles that Drogba has contributed to.
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| Quote Mark="Mark"I hate the Chelsea, southern based loving media. Paul McCarthy is a dick, it it in no way funny that John Terry changed from a suit to a tracksuit to a kit. Wank stain.'"
Just like Roddy and the rest of the scousers, if the media aren't bending over backwards and touching your private parts, you complain about media bias towards other clubs.
You only have to look at the easy ride that Roy Keane, the kid beating, career ending, World Cup AWOLer gets to see how much the media fawn over Man United. Compared to Keane, Terry has been beyond reproach over celebrating the win. Keane described Man United winning the CL as the worst moment of his career. Terry described his club winning the CL as the BEST moment of his career, even though he wasn't part of it.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Just like Roddy and the rest of the scousers, if the media aren't bending over backwards and touching your private parts, you complain about media bias towards other clubs.
You only have to look at the easy ride that Roy Keane, the kid beating, career ending, World Cup AWOLer gets to see how much the media fawn over Man United. Compared to Keane, Terry has been beyond reproach over celebrating the win. Keane described Man United winning the CL as the worst moment of his career. Terry described his club winning the CL as the BEST moment of his career, even though he wasn't part of it.'"
It just shows the professionalism of both players. Roy Keane is a born winner who hates losing and didn't choose to celebrate. JT is a classless, vile piece of sh*t who will grab any bit of glory he can. Hopefully the rat-faced tw'at is getting bummed in a prison in a few months time.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"I've just read though about Rushden and Diamonds. They had £30m invested in them by Max Griggs.
The irony of you questioning how I can feel about CFC after Roman, when you followed Rushden and Diamonds and have now moved on to the MK Dons is ridiculous. I know you scousers are ****ing hypocrites and stupid, but you take the biscuit.
If you believe that the guys down at the lower ranks of pro football are all in for the love of the game then you can. I don't. I heard about a Macclesfield player who was earning £50k a year (might have been £100k, can't really remember.) A grand a week for playing for Macclesfield is completely overpaid, even compared to the stupid salaries of the top PL players.
I personally think that the main difference between PL players and players down at the conference mainly that the conference players are just bad players. But I think the attitudes, arrogance and greed that you hate about PL players is probably just as visible in a Conference dressing room as it is in the PL. You just get to see PL players drive around in Ferraris, while the conference players stretch themselves to mid-range BMW's.'"
Max Griggs was way before my time. The typical Conference player earns 300 quid a week if they're lucky, pal. Do your ****ing research before pontificating for once in your pitiful little life.
Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"And WTF??? Given 5hit from a SCOUSER over penalties.
The ****ing vermin needed penalties to beat Cardiff City FFS. They don't win anything nowadays if it's not by a penalty shoot out.'"
.....Once again you leap to a completely unrelated and preposterous and unconnected to any previous argument in any way point. Even by gloryhunting Chelsea fan standards you are one chip-shouldered, thick ****ing ****, pal. Do one as you jellied-eel munching types are so find of saying these days I believe... I'm done sullying myself with your mouth-breathing, knuckle-scraping type.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Just like Roddy and the rest of the scousers, if the media aren't bending over backwards and touching your private parts, you complain about media bias towards other clubs.
You only have to look at the easy ride that Roy Keane, the kid beating, career ending, World Cup AWOLer gets to see how much the media fawn over Man United. Compared to Keane, Terry has been beyond reproach over celebrating the win. Keane described Man United winning the CL as the worst moment of his career. Terry described his club winning the CL as the BEST moment of his career, even though he wasn't part of it.'"
that's like one of Cornish's post LGJM - thought better of you
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| My greatest day in football ever yesterday? Can't think of better. We're back.
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| Can't believe QPR have offered Dyer a new 1 yr deal.
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| Quote andym1988="andym1988"Can't believe QPR have offered Dyer a new 1 yr deal.'"
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| west ham paid him 83k a week for four years, as well as a 425k per-season image rights deal and a 100k p-s 'loyalty' fee.
on top of the 6m they paid to buy him, his signing fee, agents fees, and all the time and money he cost them to treat his constant injuries, he must've absolutely bled them.
in those four years, he made 34 appearances for the club (don't think he actually completed 90 minutes) and didnt score a single goal in any competition. the mind boggles to think how much he must've cost them per appearance considering all the possible payments made my west ham and what they got in return.
cant blame him for laughing to the bank though, stupid decision from the west ham money men not to have clauses put into his contract, or certain payments to be triggered after he played a certain amount of games/minutes.
so, why qpr have offered this contract to him is beyond me. 33 years old, probably still on a decent wedge, and he's a midfielder who's legs went years ago.
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