Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 31, 2012 8:12 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

I don't particularly. I just find it funny that United players seem to be immune to criticism. Welbeck, only scored 9 goals in 33 games this season for a team who finished joint top yet he's a cert to go apparently. At least Crouch scored a worldy.

I really don't rate Welbeck, btw.

i think it United players 'immunity' from criticism over the years that has resulted in a lot of them being completely cba about england

#hangingeffigy #booed@wembley

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 31, 2012 9:10 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

I don't particularly. I just find it funny that United players seem to be immune to criticism. Welbeck, only scored 9 goals in 33 games this season for a team who finished 2nd yet he's a cert to go apparently. At least Crouch scored a worldy.

I really don't rate Welbeck, btw.

edited for accuracy

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 31, 2012 9:14 pm  

People who say things like 'Barry is awful' are annoy me somewhat.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 31, 2012 9:41 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

People who say things like 'Barry is awful' are annoy me somewhat.

I'd sooner read stuff like that, rather than people saying "if England just do this then they'll win this, that and the other". Barry is a solid if unspectacular player. He doesn't really do anything great and he's limited athletically. England have so many flaws that it's pointless pointing out just one, they aren't a good team and the players are average individually if you look at them truthfully.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 31, 2012 10:19 pm  

Henderson in the England squad? It's so unsulting to the other midfielders they ignore because they don't play for the glamour clubs. Try explaining to the likes of Allen, Britton and Osman as mentioned what they've failed to do that Henderson did. He was absolutely anonymous for Liverpool this season. I'm not saying he was terrible, he just didn't do anything of note despite playing pretty much the whole season. He's not an international player and whilst those others mentioned probably wouldn't normally be either, they are better than Henderson and played better throughout the season.

I would pay a few grand to have a good, candid conversation with Hodgson about why he's picked the likes of Downing, Henderson, Carroll and Wellbeck. Do performances throughout the season not count for anything?

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 31, 2012 10:22 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

I'd sooner read stuff like that, rather than people saying "if England just do this then they'll win this, that and the other". Barry is a solid if unspectacular player. He doesn't really do anything great and he's limited athletically. England have so many flaws that it's pointless pointing out just one, they aren't a good team and the players are average individually if you look at them truthfully.

In a nutshell.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 31, 2012 10:50 pm  

£38m for Hulk to Chelsea!

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu May 31, 2012 10:55 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

£38m for Hulk to Chelsea!

Another class signing. Makes you wonder where they'll fit them all in. Torres, Hazard, Mata and Hulk in one team may work if they sign some quality midfielders.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:09 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

I don't particularly. I just find it funny that United players seem to be immune to criticism. Welbeck, only scored 9 goals in 33 games this season for a team who finished joint top yet he's a cert to go apparently. At least Crouch scored a worldy.

I really don't rate Welbeck, btw.

Love it when you post.

Welbeck 9 in 23 starts
Racist 11 in 29 starts.
Carol 7 all season.

Welbeck has also scored more than any other striker in the squad apart from Rooney. Questioning the goal return of a 21 year old striker who has alot to learn after only two seasons, when your own team has two strikers who cost a combined £58 million who are biz, is awesome. As for people not wanting to play for their country?

Jamie Carragher anyone?

Priceless.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:58 am  

Mark wrote:

Jamie Carragher anyone?

Priceless.

Not sure that one counts seeing as he was never actually good enough to play for his country