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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:22 pm  
Benitez. To season's end.

Or so someone down yon end of the office has said...
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:15 pm  
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Benitez. To season's end.

Or so someone down yon end of the office has said...


Apparently so.

It's a good opportunity to wind Roddy up by calling him a Fat Spanish Waiter whenever Chelsea lose.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:27 pm  
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If you believe everything you read... Abramovich failed to convince Guardiola last summer. I can't see how anything has changed for the better now.


I agree. Abramovich's problem seems to be that he wants a complete overhaul of the way Chelsea play, but won't give anyone enough time to do it. Combined with the amount of player changes going on/needed it just can't be done without bumps in the road. With the last 2 appointments they've shown that they are not willing to back the manager when things get a bit sticky only a few months in.

Unless people go in with their eyes open to get 3 years' pay for 6 months work they'd have to be mad to take the Chelsea job.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:41 pm  
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Unless people go in with their eyes open to get 3 years' pay for 6 months work they'd have to be mad to take the Chelsea job.


Benitez would be mad to refuse it, even if its only until the end of the season. He's been out of work for a while, it would put him back in the shop window. And Hiddink showed that managers can enhance their reputation doing a short term job.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:23 pm  
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Benitez would be mad to refuse it, even if its only until the end of the season. He's been out of work for a while, it would put him back in the shop window. And Hiddink showed that managers can enhance their reputation doing a short term job.


I can see that, I was more meaning that I can't see why anyone would take the permanent Chelsea job unless it was with the full expectation that they'll be fired in 6 months and have their contract paid up. No matter what promises a new man might be made about patience and backing, it's been clearly shown that they'll carry the can as soon as things get a bit wobbly. Chelsea is up there with Liverpool and England as the biggest poisoned chalices in English football.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:10 pm  
Chelsea have had more managers than throphies in their history. Ridiculous.

Good luck to Rafa though. World class coach.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:38 pm  
I'm failing to understand the obession with Guardiola. I could have managed that Barca team to every trophy under the sun. Get him to replace Hughes at QPR, see how good of a manager he is then!

I'm hit and miss with Rafa going to Chelsea, though if he does go there, I'm looking forward to the meltdown that will engulf the Chelsea fanbase. :)
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:18 pm  
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I'm failing to understand the obession with Guardiola.


He won three consecutive La Ligas and two Champs Leagues in the space of four years (both in his first season). It's okay saying he had Iniesta, Messi and Xavi but these players need molding together as evidenced by the fact that Messi, despite being the best player in the world, has pretty much done nothing with Argentina. You mentioned QPR and how would he do there, well that may be valid criticism but how would Mark Hughes do at Barcelona if he was there? Would he have won three consecutive La Ligas and two Champs League? Managing a team of world class players is very different to managing a team of journeymen professionals.

That's without going into the way his teams have approached and evolved the game. I'm not saying he's the best in the world but it does seem pretty obvious why there's an obsession with Guardiola, especially in the UK where retaining possession has been an issue at international level for decades. Decades.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:25 pm  
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I'm failing to understand the obession with Guardiola. I could have managed that Barca team to every trophy under the sun. Get him to replace Hughes at QPR, see how good of a manager he is then!

I'm hit and miss with Rafa going to Chelsea, though if he does go there, I'm looking forward to the meltdown that will engulf the Chelsea fanbase. :)


You have to be fair Guardiola. Despite all the talent at Barcelona, they were going nowhere under the last two years of Rijkaard's management.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:08 pm  
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Chelsea have had more managers than throphies in their history. Ridiculous.


Under Abramovich, Chelsea have won 10 trophies with 7 managers.

Before Abramovich, Chelsea had 25 managers for 9 trophies.

In the 9 years since Abramovich came, Liverpool have had 3 trophies with 4 managers.

Good luck to Rafa though. World class coach.


He's should F off back to Liverpool where he will always be held with affection. He's not wanted by Chelsea.
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