Re: More Football Chat : Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:33 pm  

Having watched the game back on Football First, just how good is Leighton Baines? How he's not the established England no.1 left back by now is beyond me. He is better than Ashley Cole at the moment without any doubt and having Warnock ahead of Baines is just bizarre.

His crossing today was brilliant and he was cutting Chelsea apart going forward and the threat he posed meant Chelsea were lucky to get away with a draw today. Having said that the game probably should have been over through 2 penalties given Coleman's clinical removal of a tap in chance for Cole. They couldn't come up with a decent angle of it but it certainly looked a penalty.

Chelsea look a team with more than a few demons to me. They look woefully short in midfield without Lampard and lacking in heart. Everton wanted the win more than Chelsea today.

Re: More Football Chat : Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:56 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

just how good is Leighton Baines? How he's not the established England no.1 left back by now is beyond me.

Should have at least been number 2 when he was at Wigan

Re: More Football Chat : Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:34 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Having watched the game back on Football First, just how good is Leighton Baines? How he's not the established England no.1 left back by now is beyond me. He is better than Ashley Cole at the moment without any doubt and having Warnock ahead of Baines is just bizarre.

His crossing today was brilliant and he was cutting Chelsea apart going forward and the threat he posed meant Chelsea were lucky to get away with a draw today. Having said that the game probably should have been over through 2 penalties given Coleman's clinical removal of a tap in chance for Cole. They couldn't come up with a decent angle of it but it certainly looked a penalty.

Chelsea look a team with more than a few demons to me. They look woefully short in midfield without Lampard and lacking in heart. Everton wanted the win more than Chelsea today.

Well in terms os Ashley Cole I can't believe how overrated he is, people in the media often to refer to him as the best left back in world football but I really don't see how. Good player but nothing more.

Re: More Football Chat : Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:48 am  

Don't think much of him as a person but to deny his ability is ridiculous, apart from being one-footed what exactly are the deficiencies in his game? Which left-backs are better?

In all the drivel written about our so-called "golden generation" he is the one player we've had who can be deemed "world class".

Re: More Football Chat : Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:03 am  

Asim wrote:

Don't think much of him as a person but to deny his ability is ridiculous, apart from being one-footed what exactly are the deficiencies in his game? Which left-backs are better?

In all the drivel written about our so-called "golden generation" he is the one player we've had who can be deemed "world class".

It would be ridiculous so it's a good job I am not denying his ability, he is a good player, a very good player. I just don't see what he does exceptionally well and to be the best in the world you have to stand out. I can't remember the last time he did anything for England other than look fairly solid.

I can't think off the top of my head about which players are better but he does not stand out to me like he did maybe a few years ago.

Re: More Football Chat : Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:29 am  

I'm glad Ashley Cole plays for CFC. I think he's a good player. But TBH I really don't see the player who pundits describe as the best LB in the world either.

He's not as bad as Wayne "so one footed I need to go round in circles all the time" Bridge, but he is far too one footed than he should be. And he gets way too bunny-eyed when he gets in the oppo area.

Re: More Football Chat : Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:09 am  

I think Cole is world-class too. Baines had a chance to impress for England in a friendly before South Africa and blew it. Whether it was right or wrong that he got left behind after one bad performance is another matter, but that's the way it was.

Re: More Football Chat : Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:46 am  

Asim wrote:

Don't think much of him as a person but to deny his ability is ridiculous, apart from being one-footed what exactly are the deficiencies in his game? Which left-backs are better?

In all the drivel written about our so-called "golden generation" he is the one player we've had who can be deemed "world class".

Patrice Evra is better.

Re: More Football Chat : Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:05 am  

Is Nasri better than Fabregas? I think yes, I can see the french team being built around him for the next 5-7 years. Almost unplayable at the moment.

Re: More Football Chat : Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:24 am  

Mark wrote:

Patrice Evra is better.

Go and take a wee lie down.