: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:44 pm  

I dont think so Dog Fighting resulted him in spending 18 months in jail. He has done that and is activly helping prevent dog fighting it has nothing to do with NFL. I dont agreee with this whole role model thing no matter who the player is

: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:28 pm  

oggy123 wrote:

I dont think so Dog Fighting resulted him in spending 18 months in jail. He has done that and is activly helping prevent dog fighting it has nothing to do with NFL. I dont agreee with this whole role model thing no matter who the player is

He also initially said he didn't think what he has done is wrong and blatently denied any wrongdoing to Goodell.

By your comment that it has nothing to do with the NFL what offence should negate the ability to participate in the NFL?

I don't think Stallworth should after he killed after a DUI and neither do I think Vick should. However using your method Stallworth would because it doesn't have anything to do with the NFL. Somebody who hung dogs, electrocuted dogs, beat them until they died and drowned them, all while making money off of it, should not be in the NFL.

I'd hope he can turn his life around, he is a troubled guy but it shouldn't be in the NFL. I totally agree with this quote which interestingly Roger Goodell has previously (although he has backtracked) said:

“I don’t believe everybody deserves a second chance… It’s not a right to play in the NFL. It’s a privilege.”

: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:39 pm  

Favre stays retired.

: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:48 pm  

Ian [77] wrote:

Favre stays retired.

On the whole i'm pleased that it is over with. He was one of the greatest QB's ever (if not the) and would be tarnishing his legacy.


Although it wouldn't suprise me if he changed his mind again

: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:52 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

On the whole i'm pleased that it is over with. He was one of the greatest QB's ever (if not the) and would be tarnishing his legacy.


Although it wouldn't suprise me if he changed his mind again

Favre's legacy was already tarnished after his first farcical retirement in my opinion. I used to really like the guy but after the last 2 years he's gone way down in my estimation.

: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:56 pm  

Adamjk wrote:

Favre's legacy was already tarnished after his first farcical retirement in my opinion. I used to really like the guy but after the last 2 years he's gone way down in my estimation.

Agreed. However another poor season could have really crippled his legacy. Last year can just be attributed to being angry at us for moving on and wanting to show us we made a mistake (which we hadn't). Also to have his last play being a heartbreaking INT in the NFC Championship game i'd imagine was difficult to take.

Doing it again, would be even more stupid, especially with our rivals.

: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:00 pm  

Jim Johnson has died. Sad loss, an absolute defensive master. Probably the greatest Defensive coordinator ever.

Jim Johnson has died. Sad loss, an absolute defensive master. Probably the greatest Defensive coordinator ever.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:17 am  

ST_CONROY wrote: Jim Johnson has died. Sad loss, an absolute defensive master. Probably the greatest Defensive coordinator ever. Thats very sad news R.I.P

ST_CONROY wrote: Jim Johnson has died. Sad loss, an absolute defensive master. Probably the greatest Defensive coordinator ever. Thats very sad news R.I.P

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:17 am  

ST_CONROY wrote:

He also initially said he didn't think what he has done is wrong and blatently denied any wrongdoing to Goodell.

By your comment that it has nothing to do with the NFL what offence should negate the ability to participate in the NFL?

I don't think Stallworth should after he killed after a DUI and neither do I think Vick should. However using your method Stallworth would because it doesn't have anything to do with the NFL. Somebody who hung dogs, electrocuted dogs, beat them until they died and drowned them, all while making money off of it, should not be in the NFL.

I'd hope he can turn his life around, he is a troubled guy but it shouldn't be in the NFL. I totally agree with this quote which interestingly Roger Goodell has previously (although he has backtracked) said:

“I don’t believe everybody deserves a second chance… It’s not a right to play in the NFL. It’s a privilege.”

I hope no team takes him on. He doesn't deserve a second chance.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:18 am  

Now that Favre has finally "retired"until another team shows interest I would expect Michael Vick to end up in Minnesota now