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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:47 pm  
Didn't Real Madrid lose 4-0 the last time they came to England? They weren't facing a team with GARETH BALE in then either, game on.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:59 pm  
Just seen the sendings off. What on Earth was Crouch thinking??
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:47 pm  
My player of the year would be Kompany. The guy is a rock. I'll take Parker from the list.

Crouch is an idiot! WTF was he thinking going sliding in like that on a yellow!?
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:51 pm  
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:08 pm  
Great goal by Orbaiz last night but outdone by Stankovic.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:20 am  
Delighted to see Spurs get pumped. Hate them, their fans, the media attention and the disgraceful cumfest for 'Arry. Best squad in England? Premier league challengers? Give over, Sky. I can't believe some are still defending them and invisibale, they're a myth.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:42 am  
Surprised Real didn't get a couple of players booked once it got to 3 0, especially Ramos who looked pretty shaky against Gareth Bale, especially in the first half last night. Don't think bringing Defoe on was the first idea from 'Arry, when Spurs main tactic was 'hack it long!'
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:38 am  
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PFA Player of the year shortlist is out.

Charlie Adam
Gareth Bale
Scott Parker
Samir Nasri
Carlos Tevez
Nemanja Vidic

Glaring ommissions or me are Vincent Kompany and Edwin Van Der Sar. Not sure ow Bale's in there.


I'd probably go with Tevez from that list. Always plays well for City and has carried them at times along with Silva.

After that I'd say Vidic and Nasri were pretty close, although I'm not sure a defender should really get the award. Nasri was a shoe in a few months ago, but he seems to have lost his form just like Arsenal have. There is no real standout player on the list though.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:15 pm  
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I'd probably go with Tevez from that list. Always plays well for City and has carried them at times along with Silva.

After that I'd say Vidic and Nasri were pretty close, although I'm not sure a defender should really get the award. Nasri was a shoe in a few months ago, but he seems to have lost his form just like Arsenal have. There is no real standout player on the list though.


Why not? In this day and age where a) most of the rule changes favour attacking players and b) the standard of a lot of defending is shockingly inept at most levels of the game (including the PL), then a truly outstanding defender should be applauded. For this I would have Vidic as my POTY and agree with others that Kompany has been wrongly overlooked.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:25 pm  
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Why not? In this day and age where a) most of the rule changes favour attacking players and b) the standard of a lot of defending is shockingly inept at most levels of the game (including the PL), then a truly outstanding defender should be applauded. For this I would have Vidic as my POTY and agree with others that Kompany has been wrongly overlooked.


Oh give over. Rule changes favour attacking players? That's why on every set piece, if a defender or goalkeeper is touched, it's automatically flagged as the attacker fouling, 90% of the time the call is wrong. The offside rule, again, you see more 50/50's called in favour of the defender, and, if it isn't, there is an outrageous amount of grief given to a linesman for giving the attacker the advantage. The art of good defending is something that has been mastered far better than the art of good attacking over here. Well over half of the sides in the league approach games with the 'keep clean sheet' mentality.

Still, that doesn't mean a defender shouldn't win the award, a defender should if he has been by far the most consistent performer in the league. However, with attackers being much more 'productive', it's easier for their worth to be measured as you see a lot more end product, whereas a great defender can often be ignored because of those around him.

That list shows how pretty darn average the league has been this year. Not one side has really played great football, all sides have struggled for consistency and there obviously hasn't been a truly outstanding individual. Still, how Kompany and Nani have been left out, but Adam, Parker and the laughable Bale have been included, perplexes me.
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