Re: Betting Chat : Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:46 am  

3.10 York....... Wigmore Hall...8/1 ew.

Quite simply, the e/w shot of the season. A few things to note about WH is his racing pattern. His preferences are large galloping courses, group2 races or lesser grade and fast ground.

His record at 1m+
1122311225130041004437

His record on Gd,gd/fm and 1m+
112231122130001000...........duck eggs came at Ascot (failed all 3xs he run there) and in group 1s.

His record after his debut, with a break of 35 days+, outside group1 and on gd ground or faster
11211.

good luck if following.

Re: Betting Chat : Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:09 am  

Live Wired wrote:

3.10 York....... Wigmore Hall...8/1 ew.

Quite simply, the e/w shot of the season. A few things to note about WH is his racing pattern. His preferences are large galloping courses, group2 races or lesser grade and fast ground.

His record at 1m+
1122311225130041004437

His record on Gd,gd/fm and 1m+
112231122130001000...........duck eggs came at Ascot (failed all 3xs he run there) and in group 1s.

His record after his debut, with a break of 35 days+, outside group1 and on gd ground or faster
11211.

good luck if following.

had a look at this one this morn, think it has a good chance too but competitive race so left it alone

Re: Betting Chat : Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:54 pm  

wish I had'nt bothered either Very muddling race, WH is definately going backwards, whilst Jet Away was certainly unlucky, but why did they bring the horses standside? can understand in soft ground, but it was g/f. Very strange and will be surprised to see the form holding up.

Anyway, onwards and upwards.

Skolars -14 ( vs South Wales)

Re: Betting Chat : Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:36 am  

mizbah.5.10.lingfield
5/2
should of won last time, got dettori on board this time to get the job done

Re: Betting Chat : Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:36 am  

had a stinking weekend of it, done my profits from lumping on the early price for famous name last thursday.

chacaimadee today looks a good thing, although hughes and hannon always have their team primed for this week so libranno should be dangerous.

the german trained colt is interesting in the second, although it would be hard to back against michelangelo with the way gosden has been going.

Re: Betting Chat : Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:41 pm  

two bets for today, michelangelo and libranno ew, think he's sure to be in the frame. after thinking about the race a bit more this morning, hughes could ride a canny race from the front here and a muddling pace would be a negative for chachamaidee, who ideally wants a big field, strong gallop and a bit of cover like in last years oak tree, was 17/18 runners and a strong gallop, bit of cover and behind the front few travelling comfortably. libranno has course form, wants this ground, distance is ideal, hannon always targets this meeting, hughes rides this course as well as anyone, only slight doubt is the horse's turn of foot not being great, but is hard to get past once he gets his head down.

michelangelo looks a typical gosden improver and one of a strong team he could have for doncaster. he has a bit to find on the form book, but can only beat what you are against as he has in his past two runs. dropping down in trip lto wouldnt be ideal, so this will be much more up his street. gosden and buick have obviously been in tremendous form for a while now. think noble mission could be the sort that will run lots of stormers in defeat, and if there is a strong pace he may be found wanting close to home. michelangelo definitely has the scope to reverse placings from their last meeting. girolomo very interesting german trained horse, with german raiders fairing well over here this year. the form has been upheld of his place in their derby, but how much the form from germany is worth is open to question, with danedream being an obvious exception. he's also the pricewise pick so will predictably have lost most of his value.

Re: Betting Chat : Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:33 pm  

not usually one for backing unraced odds on shots but apparently big break is working very well for dermot weld, significantly debuting her at galway and g1 entry later in the season. has an o'brien horse to beat but meant to be working very well

Re: Betting Chat : Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:09 pm  

Frankel to win by 5L or more with paddy power is a gift at 4/6, looks an absolute monster this year and, as long as tom rides him to the finish, should win by nearer to 10 IMO!

Re: Betting Chat : Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:03 am  

andym1988 wrote:

Frankel to win by 5L or more with paddy power is a gift at 4/6, looks an absolute monster this year and, as long as tom rides him to the finish, should win by nearer to 10 IMO!

That has to be a bet fraught with danger and the sort of bet a bookie would be happy to lay win or lose.

The key bit is ride him out to the finish or even need to get him out of 2nd gear and definetly a race to watch rather than partake in whatever carrots the bookies try dangling infront of you.


The stats are that 5 times won buy under 5 lengths, twice exactly 5 and 4 times over 5 sort of confirming it is not a gold plated banker bet.

Re: Betting Chat : Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:42 am  

frankel seems much more settled down to get on with the job this year.

as well as being bigger and stronger, he has settled well in both races he's had this year, whereas last year he was trying to storm away after a furlong.

farhh will have to be a good miler to be better than excelebration, and frankel has spanked him twice this season by 11L at ascot and 5L in the lockinge, when he was in need of the run, had missed work and excelebration had the fitness advantage