Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:12 pm  

LFCPatriotRhino wrote:

Must be a season for shockingly bad shirts

and beards.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:39 pm  

RedTez wrote:

I rate Downing much higher than Adam. Much higher. Downing has been outstanding for Villa and has re-established himself after a few down years under Southgate at Boro. If Hendersons worth 18m the Downing is definitely worth 20m.

Saw some stats for Adam and for a "great passer" his pass completion rate is gash. Around 50%. Even including his Hollywood passes that is poor. Got a cracking corner on him though.

Big United fan apparently - that's a lot of Hollywood passes with Stevie Me

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:00 am  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

I must admit, I have never really seen anything in Downing. I put him on a par with Milner, a winger but not really quick or skilful enough to cause any great problems.

In fact, the only decent english winger I can think of is Johnson.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:03 am  

RedTez wrote:

If Hendersons worth 18m the Downing is definitely worth 20m.

Not a chance, he's never ever a £20 million player. He's not gifted with pace and struggles to beat a man, given space he can deliver a decent ball. If having money means you make silly transfers like this I'd rather we had none!

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:19 am  

Dan_FC wrote:

:lol: Not a chance, he's never ever a £20 million player. He's not gifted with pace and struggles to beat a man, given space he can deliver a decent ball. If having money means you make silly transfers like this I'd rather we had none!

Did you not see much of Villa last season? He was more consistent than Young (who I'm relatively happy with at United) and their player of the year. He is no Ronaldo, but he will offer much more to Liverpool than Henderson will next year. He can play wide and has the discipline to stay out there, or he can come inside if you need to pack the midfield. when I look at their squad, there really is nobody else who can fill that role.

Transfer fees are all about where the market is at a current time. Villa have just sold Young, don't want to lose another of their best players and have seen Liverpool pay 35m for Caroll and 20m for Henderson. They want top dollar for Downing and I don't blame them.

Re: Football Chat ThreadNever s : Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:22 am  

I've never been impressed with Downing on the whole. Seen him play well once against United. But I do think he provides a massive need for Liverpool. It does make me question where Dirk Kuyt fit's into it all, also seems to be massive kicks in the balls for the new Jay "xavi" Spearing. I'm guessing that Kuyt will be the the third striker. Spearing will have Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Meireles and Adam in front of him. So much for the injetcion of youth that served them so well towwars the ends of last season.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:03 am  

flipper wrote:

Big United fan apparently - that's a lot of Hollywood passes with Stevie Me

When Blackpool were at OT at the end of last season, I had the perfect opportunity to abuse Adam. I chose not to in case Fergie signed him. Curses.

Speaking of Adam, anyone else hear the rumour that he failed his medical after it went past 65 minutes?

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:01 am  

The clamour on here to rubbish any signing that Liverpool make or any player they're linked with is embarrassing (especially from Everton supporters).

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:19 am  

£7 million with £2.5mil add ons. No other players involved.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:40 am  

Dan_FC wrote:

:lol: Full title, I like it To be honest mate, I'm even jealous of Swansea who are able to spend money. It's a pi$$ take what's going on at Goodison but Kenwright/Elstone and co don't seem to want to bother themselves, I'm fed up of the $hite they serve us every summer but we're used to it by now.

Well I suppose you'll get that, it does seem an improvement on what you've had but whether Downing signs for you, United or any other club I'd be saying the same to be honest I've never liked him since he was the big thing at Boro, he's never been wonderful, not full of pace, struggles to beat a full back. Given space he can deliver a half decent ball but if I was a City, United, Arsenal or Chelsea fan your signings up to now wouldn't worry me. Adam had a good season in an extremely poor side last season, I can't see him doing it again. He'll score a few goals and get a few assists but he's a slightly better than average player, he'll been shown up for it next season.

Now if someone like Mata came in then it'd be an eye opener. Quality player, think he'll got really well over here too. If he comes over here whoever gets him will have a top quality player, I'd guess he'd want Champions League football if he gets the offer though.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one mate, each to their own. I s'pose the bottom line of what i'm trying to say is: these players aren't fantastically brilliant/world class, however they'll do a successful job for us in their posistions.

Meireles is rumoured as to be leaving this window, so I find it very interesting as to who will fit in where in centre-midfield. Obviously, Gerrard will start and I think Lucas too for his short, direct passing game. I just wonder who Kenny' prefered other man will be if that's the case: Adam, Henderson or Aquilani (?) I reckon will go with 4-3-3 this year with Downing-Carrol-Suarez up top.