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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:12 pm  
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Agree with what you're saying about clubs like City distorting the market but with City not interested in Jagielka will Everton be able to play that card with Wenger?
Lescott was never worth anything like what he went for. Everyone except the City board, a few City fans and his mum saw that. How much do you think Jagielka is worth in an honest market? I'd have said around £12 to be honest.


The problem with your 'honest market' suggestion is that the whole thing is so distorted, nobody can seriously put a true assessment on any player any more.

Unless Everton really have to sell, which nobody seems entirely sure about, then I guess they hold the upper hand over Wenger at present, seeing as Jagielka only recently extended his contract.

Obviously, things could change.....He could hand in a request which would leave Moyes in the difficult situation he had with Lescott, where he went into the new season with a wantaway player....In that position, Moyes would probably haggle for the best deal possible (probably £15m max, or more ideally for him, a player exchange deal involving Bendtner and 1 other?).

Ultimately, the Lescott deal set a level mark for Everton, and if Jagielka remains loyal, then that £20m + value will be the benchmark for any offer.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:17 pm  
Is there anything in the Bendtner rumour then? Reports over here have Spurs looking at Adebayor and a young Barça lad, Oriol Romeu to Chelsea.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:25 pm  
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Is there anything in the Bendtner rumour then? Reports over here have Spurs looking at Adebayor and a young Barça lad, Oriol Romeu to Chelsea.


Nothing that I know of, but its obvious that Wenger sees him as dispenable and he's the type of player I think Moyes would be interested in....Whether he would want to move to Goodison is another thing entirely... :lol:
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:26 pm  
Barcelona reporting Alexis Sánchez has signed a five-year contract. The initial cost? £23 million.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:05 am  
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Is there anything in the Bendtner rumour then?


There best fooking not be :evil: Pointles signing seen as he's absoulte pi$$ poor. I really dislike Bendtner, I'd really hope Moyes doesn't bring him in, having said that we could do with a new striker coming in.

As for the Jagielka thing £10m is an insult seen as Wenger had a £12m bid rejected last year, does he really think Jags' valuation has dropped by £2m :lol: idiot. He'd need to double that at least before Moyes would even think about it, one of our top players who's recently signed an extended contract as well so there's no reason for Moyes to even consider it.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:24 am  
That's not a bad fee for a 29 year old defender with no CL experience. Consider Porto got E22m for Bruno Alves - a superior player with greater experience - then the fee sort of makes sense. Throw in a bit of English premium and Jagielka will probably go for a bit less than £15m (if Everton aren't in dreamland that is).

To be honest, out of the better premier league defenders, Jagielka would have been one of the less suitable players for Arsenal's needs, IMO. They need somebody tall and dominant. Jagielka is a top player who reads play well, but he isn't 'dominant' in terms strength and height. Saying that, it wouldn't surprise me if Wenger ignored it for another season.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:42 am  
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Everton reject a £10m bid from Arsenal for Phil Jagielka..... :lol:

This is where Man City's heavy-handedness in the market will affect all the others.....Everton got 20 million plus out of City for Lescott and Jagielka is twice the player.

I'd imagine Everton will rightly hold out for about £25 million before getting into any sort of discussion with the Gunners, or anybody else.


Using your approach...
Vincent Kompany is at least twice as good as Jagielka. Kompany cost around £5m. Thus Jagielka is worth around £2m.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:46 am  
Bojan Krkic press conference at Camp Nou now. Roma will pay €12m but at the end of the 2012/2013 season Barça have first option to buy back at €13m. Roma can keep hold of the little lad but will have to pay €40m for the privilege, an extra €27m for Barcelona.
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:05 pm  
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1. Man Utd
2. Man City
3. Liverpool
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Re: Football Chat Thread : Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:15 pm  
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That's not a bad fee for a 29 year old defender with no CL experience. Consider Porto got E22m for Bruno Alves - a superior player with greater experience - then the fee sort of makes sense. Throw in a bit of English premium and Jagielka will probably go for a bit less than £15m (if Everton aren't in dreamland that is).

To be honest, out of the better premier league defenders, Jagielka would have been one of the less suitable players for Arsenal's needs, IMO. They need somebody tall and dominant. Jagielka is a top player who reads play well, but he isn't 'dominant' in terms strength and height. Saying that, it wouldn't surprise me if Wenger ignored it for another season.


Why should Jagielka leave for less than £15m? If others clubs are over pricing their players then we can too. He's better than Cahill and Bolton want around £17m for him. Jags has always been very hit and miss at times for me, he's a good defender as you say reads the game well, he's quick and quite strong too but he has his lapses at times as well. He is good in the air though, doesn't dominate and has a big tendancy to let a high or long ball drift over him instead of dealing with it in the air, that's cost us a few times, if they come back around £18m it might be worth thinking about.
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