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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:10 pm  
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:14 pm  
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:26 am  


So, no change there, then?


So, no change there, then?
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:14 pm  
Desperately seeking a ruck solution

'...if it's slow-ish ball for the attacking side we have scrum-halves who are expert at popping the ball to three "muckle" forwards who try to barge forward. And we start again.
I am just not sure that this is good for rugby, but I may be wrong. The game slows down and it all becomes a bit predictable.'
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'...if it's slow-ish ball for the attacking side we have scrum-halves who are expert at popping the ball to three "muckle" forwards who try to barge forward. And we start again.
I am just not sure that this is good for rugby, but I may be wrong. The game slows down and it all becomes a bit predictable.'
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:02 pm  
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Desperately seeking a ruck solution

'...if it's slow-ish ball for the attacking side we have scrum-halves who are expert at popping the ball to three "muckle" forwards who try to barge forward. And we start again.
I am just not sure that this is good for rugby, but I may be wrong. The game slows down and it all becomes a bit predictable.'


So is it the RL influence that is to blame, or the 'new laws' or the muckles that make the game so sh it? Only one Ingerlish team through to the last eight. I'm gutted. No, really.
Catalancs wrote:
Desperately seeking a ruck solution

'...if it's slow-ish ball for the attacking side we have scrum-halves who are expert at popping the ball to three "muckle" forwards who try to barge forward. And we start again.
I am just not sure that this is good for rugby, but I may be wrong. The game slows down and it all becomes a bit predictable.'


So is it the RL influence that is to blame, or the 'new laws' or the muckles that make the game so sh it? Only one Ingerlish team through to the last eight. I'm gutted. No, really.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:40 pm  
The essence of Beattie's article - which I thought was really well written - was that in order to try and make the game safer the IRB have prevented attacking teams from being able to clear defenders out at the ruck as vigorously as they used to and therefore the game has become much slower.

With slower ball for the attacking team and an offside line that is no more than a few feet away, teams are left with no option than to grind the ball forward through the big men phase after phase or kick it away. Imagine modern rugby league played not under a ten metre or five metre offside rule but one or two metres. That's how little space union attacks have to work in most of the time.

The new laws were designed to clean up the contact area, but in reality all they have done is enable defences to slow ball down even further and bring the game to a shuddering halt.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:00 pm  
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therefore the game has become much slower.


If it got any slower it would be in reverse.
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:08 pm  
So, Rugby Union Super League. Where did they get that imaginative name from then? :roll:
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Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:37 pm  
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So, Rugby Union Super League. Where did they get that imaginative name from then? :roll:


Probably the same place the RFL stole it from, or do you think that's the only sporting competition anywhere in the world that is allowed to call itself Super League? :roll:
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