: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:44 am  

PAUL M wrote:

Still uncovinced by Valencia though.

Should score more and lacks that end product at times.

I like him, I think he's good, although I did think you may have used him in midfield, he's still better than Park IMO.

: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:50 am  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

Should score more and lacks that end product at times.

I like him, I think he's good, although I did think you may have used him in midfield, he's still better than Park IMO.

I've not seen anything from Valencia that has impressed me either in a Wigan or Utd shirt.

: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:55 am  

Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:

I've not seen anything from Valencia that has impressed me either in a Wigan or Utd shirt.

Obv. He'll never impress you unless he's sporting a Chang shirt


I like him. Quick, strong, industrious, likes to cross it and not afraid to go the byline. Seems to make the wrong decision at times and the end product isn't quite there. I think he'll improve and be a solid player for Untied, but never world class.

: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:21 am  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

Should score more and lacks that end product at times.

I like him, I think he's good, although I did think you may have used him in midfield, he's still better than Park IMO.

That's his problem, end product. He keeps the ball well and seems to have good pace and strength but does little with it. He does not seem to be able to beat his fullback and then deliver a cross, he just ends up twisting in and out before laying it back to the fulback. He has the potential though.

: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:26 am  

Dan_FC wrote:

he was clearly taken out by Diawara, penalty all day.

Diawara got the ball

Ronaldo milked it for all it was worth

: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:27 am  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

Obv. He'll never impress you unless he's sporting a Chang shirt


I like him. Quick, strong, industrious, likes to cross it and not afraid to go the byline. Seems to make the wrong decision at times and the end product isn't quite there. I think he'll improve and be a solid player for Untied, but never world class.

Nice try

But there are many who were the Chang that, to quote Shania don't impressa me much!!

Fellaini, Hibbert, Anichebe, Yobo (now and again).

: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:48 am  

Lawrie L wrote:

Diawara got the ball

Ronaldo milked it for all it was worth

It wasn't a penalty but Ronaldo did nothing wrong. Diawara took man and ball and Ronaldo limped off shortly afterwards.

: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:05 am  

PAUL M wrote:

It wasn't a penalty but Ronaldo did nothing wrong. Diawara took man and ball and Ronaldo limped off shortly afterwards.

agree

: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:08 am  

It looked a definite penno to me but whether it was a second yellow or not is another matter...just because someone gets the ball doesn't automatically mean it isn't a foul and in this case I think there was plenty of contact and the penno was warranted.

: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:28 am  

PAUL M wrote:

That's his problem, end product. He keeps the ball well and seems to have good pace and strength but does little with it. He does not seem to be able to beat his fullback and then deliver a cross, he just ends up twisting in and out before laying it back to the fulback. He has the potential though.

The problem is not his end product. He can cross the ball and he can threaten the goal. His problem is decision-making. He gets the ball and you get the feeling he doesn't know what he should be doing.