Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:56 pm  

Packers could win in Seattle, despite me winding conroy up Rodgrs is pure class and nothing fazes him. It's the most exciting playoffs for years. I think the Panthers coukld be one and done.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:01 pm  

Here a few brilliant NFL/American sports podcasts

Ross Tucker football podcast
Around the League podcast (best by a mile)
First Take (SC would love this)

[TimperleySaint]

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:54 pm  

49ers!! #QuestForSix

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:22 pm  

Lacy rookie of the year? Pull the other one! Just because you've not seen a decent running back in a few years doesn't mean he should win that award! He's got the same YPC as Zac Stacy, someone drafted 3 rounds later than him and someone who only got to play the Bears rush D once.

OROY is Keenan Allen. Not even close as far as I'm concerned.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:15 am  

Ndamukong wrote:

Lacy rookie of the year? Pull the other one! Just because you've not seen a decent running back in a few years doesn't mean he should win that award! He's got the same YPC as Zac Stacy, someone drafted 3 rounds later than him and someone who only got to play the Bears rush D once.

OROY is Keenan Allen. Not even close as far as I'm concerned.

Just because you say it doesn't make it true!

Lacy actually has a higher YPC than Stacy FYI.

Lacy faced 8 man fronts for a significant portion of the season with Rodgers out and almost single handedly kept us in the play-off hunt. Rodgers gets the credit for coming back against the Bears and winning but we would not be in that position without Lacy. He is a beast. I'm not sure if these stats still hold up because i remember reading them before we played the Steelers but Lacy lead the league in rushing yards from week 5 onwards (he played week 1, concussion week 2 1st run, out week 3, bye week 4). He did lead the league in yards after contact too. On top of that he has the 3rd most td's among RB's (one behind Charles and Lynch). Statisically and factually he has been excellent - as for playing the Bears....the first game was when Rodgers got injured and last week he was hobbled.

If i had a vote for ORoY it would be:

1. Eddie Lacy
2. Cordarelle Patterson
3. Keenan Allen

Can't wait to play the 49ers this week. Weather is supposed to be atrociously cold so we are going to have an interesting game. Even if we go 1 and done in the play-offs (distinctly possible) it has been a great season as a Packer fan despite the record.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:17 pm  

Cutler is staying with the Bears on a huge 7 year contract(126 million).Now the offence is sorted we need to improve the D to keep up in the division..I think the NFC North will be strong for the next few years,GB will always be up there while Rodgers is around,the Lions have a good young team that just need a decent coach to improve them and the Vikings are moving to a new stadium which should give them a boost in the years to come.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:53 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

Just because you say it doesn't make it true!

Lacy actually has a higher YPC than Stacy FYI.

Lacy faced 8 man fronts for a significant portion of the season with Rodgers out and almost single handedly kept us in the play-off hunt. Rodgers gets the credit for coming back against the Bears and winning but we would not be in that position without Lacy. He is a beast. I'm not sure if these stats still hold up because i remember reading them before we played the Steelers but Lacy lead the league in rushing yards from week 5 onwards (he played week 1, concussion week 2 1st run, out week 3, bye week 4). He did lead the league in yards after contact too. On top of that he has the 3rd most td's among RB's (one behind Charles and Lynch). Statisically and factually he has been excellent - as for playing the Bears....the first game was when Rodgers got injured and last week he was hobbled.

If i had a vote for ORoY it would be:

1. Eddie Lacy
2. Cordarelle Patterson
3. Keenan Allen

Can't wait to play the 49ers this week. Weather is supposed to be atrociously cold so we are going to have an interesting game. Even if we go 1 and done in the play-offs (distinctly possible) it has been a great season as a Packer fan despite the record.

Yeah because the Rams and Stacy faced D's afraid of the pass with Clemens out there The pair were on 4.1 YPC going into week 17. Not seen any stats since. You know the Bears rush D was horrific all year and essentially a gimme 150 for opposing RBs?

I just don't buy it. Guy has similar stats to a 5th rounder who played on a worse team against better teams (throughout the course of the season).

Don't get how you place Lacy over Allen or even Mike Glennon who played pretty well given the circumstances he got the job. Both positions far harder to enter the league in than at running back. Then again you've shown yourself to be more than a little blinkered when it comes to the Packers.

Cordarrelle Patterson is great but if you can be OROY off the back of less than 500 receiving yards and 150 rushing yards then the worlds gone mad.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:23 am  

Ive been saying it for about 2 months now and I really do think that The Panthers will reach the Superbowl. They are the best team we played this year and that includes the Sea Hawks.

Im on the Cam Hype, even though Im not his biggest fan

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:11 am  

Ndamukong wrote:

Yeah because the Rams and Stacy faced D's afraid of the pass with Clemens out there The pair were on 4.1 YPC going into week 17. Not seen any stats since. You know the Bears rush D was horrific all year and essentially a gimme 150 for opposing RBs?

I just don't buy it. Guy has similar stats to a 5th rounder who played on a worse team against better teams (throughout the course of the season).

Don't get how you place Lacy over Allen or even Mike Glennon who played pretty well given the circumstances he got the job. Both positions far harder to enter the league in than at running back. Then again you've shown yourself to be more than a little blinkered when it comes to the Packers.

Cordarrelle Patterson is great but if you can be OROY off the back of less than 500 receiving yards and 150 rushing yards then the worlds gone mad.

To be honest i didn't realise Keenan Allen had so many yards and Patterson had so few. i know he did a lot of damage in the return game but i thought they introduced him more in the offence - maybe just seemed like it when i saw them play. Flip Allen and Patterson around.

We obviously have a different view on what "similar" means. 300 more (total) yards and 3 more TD's is not similar. Not to mention the stats i mentioned earlier about leading the league since week 5 and leading the league in yards after contact. He is top 10 in every meaningful category for his position as a rookie. That is brilliant. Bell, Bernard and Stacy all look like very good RB's from this class. It just so happens that they haven't been able to match Lacy's output this season. Also Packers and Rams strength of schedule was remarkable similar based on last years results.

Given your love for yards per attempt i'm sure you'd agree that Kenny Stills should actually be RoY. After all he was drafted later than Keenan Allen and has a higher yards per catch than him? That's how you are judging RB's so i assume it's the same for WR's....only fair?

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:18 am  

Harrigan wrote:

Ive been saying it for about 2 months now and I really do think that The Panthers will reach the Superbowl. They are the best team we played this year and that includes the Sea Hawks.

Im on the Cam Hype, even though Im not his biggest fan

They look great but do they have the passing game (especially if Smith is hurt) to get there? Defence and running can only get you so far and if they ended up behind i'm not sure they'd have the arsenal to come back passing?

I think i backed of them a few weeks ago after a few bad results but i'm back on the Colts. I think they will make waves in the play-offs.