If they'd kept allardyce in charge they'd never be in this mess.



But no.



Newcastle fans put payed to that.

I am inclined to agree with that.

Wash your mouth out with soap and water.



TO BLAME



Ashley

Wise

Allardyce



NOT TO BLAME



Keegan

Shearer

Michael Owen

Any other Newcastle hero

My god Gaz you will upset Ash with all this downtalking of Wise, Ashley, Coloccini etc





I can't see Newcastle staying up now, they needed to win the three home games imo, they won't get anything at Villa or Liverpool and even two home wins might not be enough.

No.



I can see it going:



Aston Villa 2-0 Hull

Hull 0-1 Stoke

Bolton 2-1 Hull

Hull 0-4 Manchester United

No, a small minority of the fans are to blame, and that is the naive/deluded fans who think we should still be in the Champions League.



The other fans know that we don't deserve that, i don't expect anything like that anytime soon, but the small minority always get the Newcastle haters thinking it is everyone that has unrealistic expectations.







Well anyone with a pair of eyes can see how bad Coloccini has been, with the exception of 3 or 4 games.



Wise may have brought a few youngsters in for the academy, but his interfering and his signings for the team (Xisco, Coloccini, Gonzales) have failed to shine.

thought gonzales had gone alright myself. don't think you can blame the mess you're in on three players wise ushered in though. quite a few keegan/pre-wise buys have done feck all to be fair.

Bassong is a Keegan signing and he has been probably our best player this season.



Im not blaming the 3 players, they just happen to have been really below par, or haven't played. 1 person has to carry the blame for the way he has run the club, the massive mistakes he has made and the position we find ourselves in now, and that is Ashley.



Gonzales hasn't even played mate.

was thinking of gutierrez

he was a good player at mallorca

Gutierrez has been good, played better at the start of the season, he is more creative than other midfielders we have, he just hasn't scored for us yet. None of our players look like scoring.

Ashley certainly deserves a huge portion of the blame.



But equal portions of the blame need serving to Kevin Keegan and the previous ownership/board.



But you'll probably never accept that Keegan is even slightly to blame. Far easier for you to direct the blame at Dennis Wise rather than Keegan.

Keegan must surely shoulder alot of the blame.



The fans wanted Ashley out after Keegan walked away (again) so he tried to sell the club. In this time, rather than employing a massively paid manager, he went for a short term measure in Kinnear, so the new owners could bring in who they saw fit. Not a bad move. The issue arose when no buyers were found. So then, they were f**ked. If the fans wouldn't of sent Ashley the threats, abused his family and generally made his role as owner a nightmare, he may've employed someone more suitable than Joe Kinnear as manager.