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Re: Things to be aware of. : Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:58 pm  
No Jim you said it was a different account I was asking if that was confirmed by the club or just an assumption, I am being critical of you am just wary of anything and everything after the club appear to have been more open with the press than us mere paying fans.
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Re: Things to be aware of. : Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:07 pm  
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No Jim you said it was a different account I was asking if that was confirmed by the club or just an assumption, I am being critical of you am just wary of anything and everything after the club appear to have been more open with the press than us mere paying fans.


Pete because this is manorlands and i know a lot of people strongly support it.
I wanted to put peoples minds at rest about the money going to them.

If i find out this info is wrong, i like a lot on here will be very, very angry.

I fully believe everything regarding this will be OK.
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Re: Things to be aware of. : Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:45 am  
When people say don’t worry, people do, it’s human nature. A bit like Chamberlains “I have a piece of paper” speech, and the subsequent actions of one Mr Hitler.

I have no axe to grind with anyone but would like to know why we need to go into liquidation and suffer a loss of points in what will already be our toughest and most important season in years.

This division is “where it’s at”; better rugby, more support, slightly more TV coverage, and I assume more potential sponsors.

I would hope that the new directors have produced spreadsheets that compare the difference in income and expenditure between the two divisions.
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Difference in income from higher attendance
Difference in income from more sponsors
Difference in expenditure from less winning pay (initially)
Difference in income from increased merchandise sales
Difference in income from increased match day bar takings.

Taking all these into account would it have been sensible to take on the debt, not get a points deduction then fight to keep in this div?

What I have written may be nonsense and the figures might just not add up, but I would like to know. It would be a good start for a new board to explain these things to the fans. Just saying that it is not in our best interests could mean anything.

And whilst I’ve got my back up, what about the ground development? The wooden stand can’t last much longer. I hope we don’t have someone coming on board who hopes to make a quick buck then disappear.

There, rant over.

I’ll say it again, I have no axe to grind against anyone, but looking at our past it would be nice for a new board to start with some transparency.
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Re: Things to be aware of. : Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:02 am  
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When people say don’t worry, people do, it’s human nature. A bit like Chamberlains “I have a piece of paper” speech, and the subsequent actions of one Mr Hitler.

I have no axe to grind with anyone but would like to know why we need to go into liquidation and suffer a loss of points in what will already be our toughest and most important season in years.

This division is “where it’s at”; better rugby, more support, slightly more TV coverage, and I assume more potential sponsors.

I would hope that the new directors have produced spreadsheets that compare the difference in income and expenditure between the two divisions.
Ie
Difference in income from higher attendance
Difference in income from more sponsors
Difference in expenditure from less winning pay (initially)
Difference in income from increased merchandise sales
Difference in income from increased match day bar takings.

Taking all these into account would it have been sensible to take on the debt, not get a points deduction then fight to keep in this div?

What I have written may be nonsense and the figures might just not add up, but I would like to know. It would be a good start for a new board to explain these things to the fans. Just saying that it is not in our best interests could mean anything.

And whilst I’ve got my back up, what about the ground development? The wooden stand can’t last much longer. I hope we don’t have someone coming on board who hopes to make a quick buck then disappear.

There, rant over.

I’ll say it again, I have no axe to grind against anyone, but looking at our past it would be nice for a new board to start with some transparency.


All good points.

The club is at a cross roads here, and how it's handled will determine it's long term future.

I would also like to know where the hell this legacy tax comes from? :ASK:
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Re: Things to be aware of. : Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:44 am  
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All good points.

The club is at a cross roads here, and how it's handled will determine it's long term future.

I would also like to know where the hell this legacy tax comes from? :ASK:


It can only have come since the new club was formed in 2001.
The old club was taken into admin.

Or have i got that wrong?
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Re: Things to be aware of. : Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:12 am  
I can confirm after some digging that I am now satisfied with the information that both the kc club and manorlands are entirely seperate to the club and that these payments are being made on a regular basis.

Therefore I am continuing supporting both.
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