Re: ENG V AUS : Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:57 pm  

obeone wrote:

Do we have a chance?

Think it will be close,then in the last 20mins they will steamroll us

ENG 14 AUS 42

dont give up the day job

: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:09 pm  

The problem is, as it has been for a long time and as most people concede, we can match if not beat them in the forwards, look at their pack and ours and I know which I would pick without a doubt. Then they shift it wide and they look dangerous and they only looked really dangerous down that side (Hayne and Hodges didn't really offer anything all match) . Where there main attacking threat (Inglis) was. Second half, he obviously though Eastmond was a better defender in that right third and it worked. You can see that when Australia try work there way out of trouble, they look to get it out to Inglis asap but we wrapped him up, combine this with the fact that or forwards were getting on a roll and letting Tomkins, Eastmond and the reast play we showed what we can really do. From now on lets start from minute one and show what we can do. I dont subscribe to this Australia took their foot off the gas. Australia were just tired because of the defending they were doing on the back of our possession. Forwards were constantly punching holes in the line and I cant wait till they take on the Kiwi pack next week. The Kiwis are a big team and I honetly think they will struggle with the likes of Eastmond and Tomkins running at them. England by 10 for me! You heard it here first.

: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:46 am  

andrew aspinall wrote:

so why did that happen then??? Same side in the second half that regained a bit of pride! Is it down to the phsycology? We showed them far too much respect, we were like kittens.

Possibly. In fact I think we want to win to badly we don't stick to any sort of plan orstructure hence the massive gaps.

: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:09 am  

The Dors wrote:

Possibly. In fact I think we want to win to badly we don't stick to any sort of plan orstructure hence the massive gaps.

I think your absolutely right.

: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:36 pm  

1-5 let us down again!

If we're ever going to consistantly challenge Australia and New Zealand our youth coaching system needs a radical overhaul.

I think we should be taking the philosophy of the 3 great soccer academies of the world Ajax, Barcelona and Boca Juniors who have between them produced 11 of FourFourTwo magazine's 100 best players in the world..

1) Teach kids how to play the game before teaching them how to win games. Technically our players are light years behind the Australians.

2) Encourage creativity, don't stifle it. How long is it since we've produced an out and out genius at 6 or 7?

3) Play a similar style of play with the kids to what the first team/ national team do so that when talent comes through they slot straight in.

: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:57 pm  

Stealth Comic wrote:

1-5 let us down again!

If we're ever going to consistantly challenge Australia and New Zealand our youth coaching system needs a radical overhaul.

I think we should be taking the philosophy of the 3 great soccer academies of the world Ajax, Barcelona and Boca Juniors who have between them produced 11 of FourFourTwo magazine's 100 best players in the world..

1) Teach kids how to play the game before teaching them how to win games. Technically our players are light years behind the Australians.

2) Encourage creativity, don't stifle it. How long is it since we've produced an out and out genius at 6 or 7?

3) Play a similar style of play with the kids to what the first team/ national team do so that when talent comes through they slot straight in.

Too radical

: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:58 pm  

Stealth Comic wrote:

1-5 let us down again!

If we're ever going to consistantly challenge Australia and New Zealand our youth coaching system needs a radical overhaul.

I think we should be taking the philosophy of the 3 great soccer academies of the world Ajax, Barcelona and Boca Juniors who have between them produced 11 of FourFourTwo magazine's 100 best players in the world..

1) Teach kids how to play the game before teaching them how to win games. Technically our players are light years behind the Australians.

2) Encourage creativity, don't stifle it. How long is it since we've produced an out and out genius at 6 or 7?

3) Play a similar style of play with the kids to what the first team/ national team do so that when talent comes through they slot straight in.

: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:14 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

Too radical

Way too radical for the old farts at Red Hall anyway.

It's definitely an English problem, but not exclusive to Rugby League.

Football, Tennis, and Kick and Clap, are equally as guilty of it.

: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:20 pm  

I've said this elsewhere, instead of copying the Aussie game how about listening to the RL public for once?

: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:05 pm  

The Dors wrote:

I've said this elsewhere, instead of copying the Aussie game how about listening to the RL public for once?

Exactly, we should innovate instead of imitate.

What we need is a coach who will move the game forward like Herbert Chapman and Rinus Michels did in football.

Apart from Strength, Speed and Conditioning, the way Rugby League has been played hasn't changed much in the last 20 years.