Re: Toronto promoted : Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:19 am  

Dont agree with for the good of the game, how many times over the year has that term been used. For me SL have a hidden agenda probably leading to a so called elite league.

Re: Toronto promoted : Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:22 am  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Ultimately Toronto are not the bogeyman. They will either succeed or fail, but nothing ventured nothing gain. I wouldn't have minded whenever came up but I don't get the negativity towards Toronto. They have done it the way everyone used to say any club entering into SL should so deserve their place in the top flight. I hope they succeed as their success will ultimately be good for the game as a whole.

Yes they have, home grown players, on a limited budget great travelling support and all blast their national anthem out at home games ... hold on a minute

Re: Toronto promoted : Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:28 am  

Its hoping it goes better than Paris st germain ,that was money wasted that could have been invested in grass roots rugby or a Cumbrian team

Re: Toronto promoted : Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:47 am  

Have they done it the same way as everyone else, really?

With BLM there on his comments.

Rewind back to 2016 or so, when the news first broke of their creation. It said in the press releases regarding finance, that they would be allowed a special disburtion to exceed the cap. Did other teams. No. Did some teams stretch themselves financially, and struggle, almost going to the wall, yes. What it didn't say is how much extra they were allowed. We dont know how much, but if this is still the case, could they exceed it again, and how much to compete in SL.

Also, there was the saga with the unpaid or late transfer fee with Caton Brown. Heard this wasnt the first time.

One other thing I would mention, though our club wont do this as often as TW, but, I think for one person, the package to travel is about £700 for two nights. Wonder what the bill would be for a whole squad, coaches and backroom staff etc. Can't see too many clubs who closely look at budgets etc, will be too happy with that.

All for expansion but not this way

Re: Toronto promoted : Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:06 am  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

Have they done it the same way as everyone else, really?

With BLM there on his comments.

Rewind back to 2016 or so, when the news first broke of their creation. It said in the press releases regarding finance, that they would be allowed a special disburtion to exceed the cap. Did other teams. No. Did some teams stretch themselves financially, and struggle, almost going to the wall, yes. What it didn't say is how much extra they were allowed. We dont know how much, but if this is still the case, could they exceed it again, and how much to compete in SL.

Also, there was the saga with the unpaid or late transfer fee with Caton Brown. Heard this wasnt the first time.

One other thing I would mention, though our club wont do this as often as TW, but, I think for one person, the package to travel is about £700 for two nights. Wonder what the bill would be for a whole squad, coaches and backroom staff etc. Can't see too many clubs who closely look at budgets etc, will be too happy with that.

All for expansion but not this way

But regarding the cost for a squad, aren't Toronto forfeiting their SL money which should cover flight costs? I'm sure Daddycool will put me right if I've misread the situation.

Re: Toronto promoted : Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:07 am  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

One other thing I would mention, though our club wont do this as often as TW, but, I think for one person, the package to travel is about £700 for two nights. Wonder what the bill would be for a whole squad, coaches and backroom staff etc. Can't see too many clubs who closely look at budgets etc, will be too happy with that.

Toronto pay for teams to travel and stay there.

Soccer fans travel all over in their comps and we cry about going over the Pennines on a Friday night.

Brian McDermott was completely correct in his post-match comments.

While ever the top of our game revolves around players working on building sites in pit villages, before training and playing in front of 2000 fans, we will never compete as a major sport.

Re: Toronto promoted : Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:11 am  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

Have they done it the same way as everyone else, really?

With BLM there on his comments.

Rewind back to 2016 or so, when the news first broke of their creation. It said in the press releases regarding finance, that they would be allowed a special disburtion to exceed the cap. Did other teams. No. Did some teams stretch themselves financially, and struggle, almost going to the wall, yes. What it didn't say is how much extra they were allowed. We dont know how much, but if this is still the case, could they exceed it again, and how much to compete in SL.

Also, there was the saga with the unpaid or late transfer fee with Caton Brown. Heard this wasnt the first time.

One other thing I would mention, though our club wont do this as often as TW, but, I think for one person, the package to travel is about £700 for two nights. Wonder what the bill would be for a whole squad, coaches and backroom staff etc. Can't see too many clubs who closely look at budgets etc, will be too happy with that.

All for expansion but not this way

I wouldn't mind but this is not expansion, replacing another club doesn't expand the sport, I'd also go as far as saying the damage has been done to London due to the relegation and will take years to recover

Wonder if it had been either
Leeds, Wigan or Saints would they allow it to happen

Re: Toronto promoted : Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:23 am  

Cant really see them doing this forever though, realistically.

Money they're spending on travelling will start to impact their own finance one day. It doesn't last forever.

I'm all for expansion, but in the right way but I dont believe this is.

Re: Toronto promoted : Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:25 am  

dboy wrote:

Toronto pay for teams to travel and stay there.

Soccer fans travel all over in their comps and we cry about going over the Pennines on a Friday night.

Brian McDermott was completely correct in his post-match comments.

While ever the top of our game revolves around players working on building sites in pit villages, before training and playing in front of 2000 fans, we will never compete as a major sport.

He wants to keep his mouth shut, the people who work on building sites and pit villages are the ones that pay to watch their teams, you can talk about their supposedly contribution to the game till the cows come home but I will never buy into it.

Re: Toronto promoted : Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:28 am  

Eastern Wildcat wrote:

Cant really see them doing this forever though, realistically.

Money they're spending on travelling will start to impact their own finance one day. It doesn't last forever.

I'm all for expansion, but in the right way but I dont believe this is.

So your objection to TO being promoted, is that, although they cover the travel and accommodation costs for visiting teams, one day, they may not?

Shall we worry about that when it happens and hope the game's leadership can take advantage of the opportunities offered from getting into the North American market?