Re: Leeds away first up. : Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:26 pm  

fez1 wrote:

Enjoyable game - as a Wire fan.
It's interesting how DP seems to be much more comfortable at Wakey than he was at Warrington (no disrespect intended).
Sometimes appointments just don't work out and DP was one of those with us.
He did well as Cas and I'm pleased you've started off with a win.

Agree completely. It's impossible at times to predict how successful a new manager might be, whether rugby or industry. Like DP I've had successful jobs sandwiching a disaster and to this day I still can't figure out what went wrong. There's something about the "fit" with an organisation and the people in it - something you can't tell from an interview. The main thing is he seems happy, the players are happy, the club is happy and the supporters are just about ecstatic. Long may it continue. He's a good man and he deserves his success.

Re: Leeds away first up. : Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:10 am  

fez1 wrote:

Enjoyable game - as a Wire fan.
It's interesting how DP seems to be much more comfortable at Wakey than he was at Warrington (no disrespect intended).
Sometimes appointments just don't work out and DP was one of those with us.
He did well as Cas and I'm pleased you've started off with a win.

If you have chance it’s worth listening to recent interviews with DP on what went off at wire. Regardless, our structures under DP and Shenton have improved hugely.

I’m pretty sure Wire went on an unbeaten run of 7? With Wire before the issues started. You don’t do that if you don’t have ability as a coach. Im sure DP and Wire have moved on though and reality is there were probably fault on both parties. I’m confident Powell can get trinity to the next level with this group of players and an ambitious owner.

Re: Leeds away first up. : Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:04 am  

Trojan Horse wrote:

If you have chance it’s worth listening to recent interviews with DP on what went off at wire. Regardless, our structures under DP and Shenton have improved hugely.

I’m pretty sure Wire went on an unbeaten run of 7? With Wire before the issues started. You don’t do that if you don’t have ability as a coach. Im sure DP and Wire have moved on though and reality is there were probably fault on both parties. I’m confident Powell can get trinity to the next level with this group of players and an ambitious owner.

He went in and divided the changing room. He took on some big characters including the club captain who left because of him but not before sides had been taken and his style simply didn’t work.

Lots of big egos at Wire, and still are. I don’t think his way of man managing them worked, and as such the changes he tried to put into place were rejected. He won’t have had the same issues at our club and could create his own culture given the circumstances around his appointment. I don’t think his coaching ability has ever really been an issue I think man management sometimes has been particularly when managing high profile players/egos.

Re: Leeds away first up. : Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:11 am  

jonh wrote:

He went in and divided the changing room. He took on some big characters including the club captain who left because of him but not before sides had been taken and his style simply didn’t work.

Lots of big egos at Wire, and still are. I don’t think his way of man managing them worked, and as such the changes he tried to put into place were rejected. He won’t have had the same issues at our club and could create his own culture given the circumstances around his appointment. I don’t think his coaching ability has ever really been an issue I think man management sometimes has been particularly when managing high profile players/egos.

And who do you base these big egos on? I think you are a little off on that one

Re: Leeds away first up. : Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:19 am  

Big lads mate wrote:

And who do you base these big egos on? I think you are a little off on that one

Cooper and King predominantly who rebelled against Powell.

Re: Leeds away first up. : Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:22 am  

jonh wrote:

Cooper and King predominantly who rebelled against Powell.

The still is comment I was wondering about

Re: Leeds away first up. : Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:38 am  

Big lads mate wrote:

The still is comment I was wondering about

King is still there. All clubs have players with big egos, they don’t have to be an issue if they are managed.

Big Dave for us had a big ego and rightly so.

Having someone in there like Burgess with his stature has his ability to manage them it’s less of an issue.

There are egos in every walk of life not just rugby and how they are managed is generally dictated if they become an issue or not.

Re: Leeds away first up. : Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:43 am  

I believe after listening to Powell at a forum, Cooper and Gaz Widdop made the changing room fairly toxic after being told they they could look for another club. I think what massively added to this was the Josh McGuire incident with Josh Charnley. What ever he said to Josh (obviously got mates at Warrington) massively divided the changing room also. Sounded like abit of a nightmare.

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Re: Leeds away first up. : Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:46 am  

jonh wrote:

He went in and divided the changing room. He took on some big characters including the club captain who left because of him but not before sides had been taken and his style simply didn’t work.

Lots of big egos at Wire, and still are. I don’t think his way of man managing them worked, and as such the changes he tried to put into place were rejected. He won’t have had the same issues at our club and could create his own culture given the circumstances around his appointment. I don’t think his coaching ability has ever really been an issue I think man management sometimes has been particularly when managing high profile players/egos.

How did he divide the dressing room?
Players are paid to play.

All he did was set a strategy to do that, which was initially successful until some didn't want to.

I'm glad it worked out that way. Powell is exactly the right leader for our club. We needed to build a team at all levels and we had players who wanted to learn.
He's created a team without dysfunctional players.

Let's see how it works out.

Re: Leeds away first up. : Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:38 am  

Pat Bateman wrote:

I believe after listening to Powell at a forum, Cooper and Gaz Widdop made the changing room fairly toxic after being told they they could look for another club. I think what massively added to this was the Josh McGuire incident with Josh Charnley. What ever he said to Josh (obviously got mates at Warrington) massively divided the changing room also. Sounded like abit of a nightmare.

That is correct Powell also said that,Wires have a board of 4 owners and it was hard to keep th all happy ,and was told by the board to have a good clean out in the team . From what I have seen at Wakefield so far since he took over, is a team that want to give 100% to the club and supporters and no players with egoes