Re: Fans Forum - Wednesday : Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:38 am  

GET EM ON SIDE REF wrote:

Wonder what the cost of the pitch is having possibly the best surface in SL would the money be better spent on the West side

MC said “the only reason it’s the best pitch in SL is because it only has 13 SL games a year played on it”. The Hybrid pitch will provide 30/40 hours a week of use for other sports/organisations, communities.
I’m sure we also have an obligation to the council to provide these community facilities as part of council funding package. This would not be possible with a completely grass pitch.

Re: Fans Forum - Wednesday : Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:50 am  

vastman wrote:

Surprised you've missed the point jonh.

He doesn't mean we'd disband it, he means it would get ransacked every years by SL clubs. Not having a go but your beloved Wigan would almost certainly be one. We could produce youngsters all day long but any who looked half decent would be off.

For a start the parasite club Salford who are so lazy they don't even have an Academy would see us as nothing more than battery farm doing what they should be doing.

Personally if we got demoted and there was no gangway back I'd disband the Academy as an utter waste of many. I'd just concentrate on helping local amateur clubs and hope that they can produce enough players to fill out our first team. It shouldn't be that way but if you were a farmer you wouldn't breed cattle in a field with no fences next to a motorway would you?

Not missed the point at all.

Unfortunately you are speaking from a position of ignorance on this, I am not.

Wakefield don’t get the pick of local juniors as it is.

We have to cope with Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Leeds already raiding the local clubs. If they offer Wakefield juniors positions 99% of the time they go.

I can name a number of local juniors from the crop of 13s this year who have chosen to do so. Wakefield supporters too.

We develop players rather than bring in the stars.

The system works at Trinity.

If we go down the system will continue to work.

Being in the lower division probably provides an easier pathway to first team rugby however that becomes problematic if we don’t bounce back fairly quickly.

The statement last night, if it was made as being reported, is very dangerous and has already caused quite a bit of concern within our junior playing ranks.

Re: Fans Forum - Wednesday : Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:55 am  

jonh wrote:

Not missed the point at all.

Unfortunately you are speaking from a position of ignorance on this, I am not.

Wakefield don’t get the pick of local juniors as it is.

We have to cope with Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Wigan, Leeds already raiding the local clubs. If they offer Wakefield juniors positions 99% of the time they go.

I can name a number of local juniors from the crop of 13s this year who have chosen to do so. Wakefield supporters too.

We develop players rather than bring in the stars.

The system works at Trinity.

If we go down the system will continue to work.

Being in the lower division probably provides an easier pathway to first team rugby however that becomes problematic if we don’t bounce back fairly quickly.

The statement last night, if it was made as being reported, is very dangerous and has already caused quite a bit of concern within our junior playing ranks.

Re: Fans Forum - Wednesday : Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:03 am  

jonh wrote:

The statement last night, if it was made as being reported, is very dangerous and has already caused quite a bit of concern within our junior playing ranks.

The line as I recall was more like 10 years of work building the academy down the pan and linked with the fact that all our guys are on Super League contracts and that the club had already warned off approaches for some of our younger squad members.

Re: Fans Forum - Wednesday : Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:12 am  

Just going back to the East, West, North & South debate....
Yes defo East stand first.
Then for me (if we are in SL) it should be West before North.
I say that with the view of you only get one chance to make a first impression.
Away fans will first see the new East stand and then look at what they have to still put up with.
A refurbed West stand would look much better to me.
For me North & South can stay as they are.

Re: Fans Forum - Wednesday : Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:15 am  

jonh wrote:

Not missed the point at all.

Unfortunately you are speaking from a position of ignorance on this, I am not.

Wakefield don’t get the pick of local juniors as it is.

We have to cope with Wigan, Warrington, Saints, Leeds already raiding the local clubs. If they offer Wakefield juniors positions 99% of the time they go.

I can name a number of local juniors from the crop of 13s this year who have chosen to do so. Wakefield supporters too.

We develop players rather than bring in the stars.

The system works at Trinity.

If we go down the system will continue to work.

Being in the lower division probably provides an easier pathway to first team rugby however that becomes problematic if we don’t bounce back fairly quickly.

The statement last night, if it was made as being reported, is very dangerous and has already caused quite a bit of concern within our junior playing ranks.

I'm saying as are a few others that you missed the point but it seems you can't admit it as usual.

He didn't say he'd disband it he said it would go to pot and if you can't work out what that means then you mate are clearly the ignorant one.

The rest of it was what I'd do but I happily admit that I am not a self proclaimed expert, unlike yourself, so it's purely an opinion.

Sounds to me like you've got a vested interest way beyond the average fan, interesting.

Re: Fans Forum - Wednesday : Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:17 am  

Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:

The line as I recall was more like 10 years of work building the academy down the pan and linked with the fact that all our guys are on Super League contracts and that the club had already warned off approaches for some of our younger squad members.

However Chinese whispers has now kicked in and it is being reported that we won’t run an Academy.

Very dangerous, especially with a view to the next intake of scholars.

Hopefully the club nip that in the bud with a formal statement.

Re: Fans Forum - Wednesday : Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:17 am  

jonh wrote:

Why would the Academy be disbanded should we be relegated?

This makes no sense at all.

The Academy was granted a 4 year (I think) license last year which guaranteed them a place in the elite Academy until at least 2027.

This includes the funding to do so.

Should we go down that pathway would be crucial to the future of the club so I am very confused as to why the club leadership of the club are planning on winding it up should we drop down a division.

A point of note here, the elite academies come with a set amount of funding, they are not necessarily fully funded. Most clubs including us tend to ‘top up’ the funds with their own money which makes a big difference. It’s something i doubt we could afford to do if relegated so would have to run a lower standard academy using just the central funds, that is unless the rule still exists where you have match fund the monies given to you then this probably wouldn’t be possible either. We’d likely just run a development academy as teams like Leigh & Salford do now in that case. Either way all our top talent would depart.

I’d also imagine we’d cut the reserve team as well. It’s not a requirement to have one in the championship.

Re: Fans Forum - Wednesday : Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:20 am  

vastman wrote:

I'm saying as are a few others that you missed the point but it seems you can't admit it as usual.

He didn't say he'd disband it he said it would go to pot and if you can't work out what that means then you mate are clearly the ignorant one.

The rest of it was what I'd do but I happily admit that I am not a self proclaimed expert, unlike yourself, so it's purely an opinion.

Sounds to me like you've got a vested interest way beyond the average fan, interesting.

I didn’t miss the point I am responding to what was mentioned on here and is flying all round social media.

I was not there last night as I was out investing in the future of the game and club.

I’m not a self professed expert on junior development. I’m a qualified expert with many years experience in the field.

I’m also currently managing a damage limitation exercise because of how the comments were interpreted and are being reported.

Re: Fans Forum - Wednesday : Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:24 am  

alegend wrote:

Mr Carter did say if some one had a spare 300 ,000 £ he could do some thing with the West stand ,As the ground upgrade is costing one and a quarter pound above the 12, million .due to the cost of covid .Salford now spend more on sallery cap than we do

300k and the west stand could be improved

I’d love to see how that looked on paper

If I ever get a lotto win I’d be happy to fund that

Brill that mc has at least looked in to it though