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Re: Takeover updates : Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:41 pm  
I'm assuming Frank Carter is Michael's dad ? He has 300000 member shares on that list. Does that mean he has donated £300k to the club and was that done recently in line with the rest of the fans who donated to that scheme or is that allocation from something totally different ?
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Re: Takeover updates : Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:45 pm  
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I'm assuming Frank Carter is Michael's dad ? He has 300000 member shares on that list. Does that mean he has donated £300k to the club and was that done recently in line with the rest of the fans who donated to that scheme or is that allocation from something totally different ?


I wondered who that was.
I did not connect the name?! How stupid am I.

I assume it was at the same time as there wasn't a concept of member shares before that.
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Re: Takeover updates : Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:49 pm  
MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:
if this deal collapses its down to one person playing stupid games.


Here we go.

So...if it does go through, are the rumours down to one vindictive person spreading stupid lies again? Asking for a friend.

I did wonder what your FB buddy would do with himself when Carter steps back but he's already started on Minards.
How long before it's Ellis?
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Re: Takeover updates : Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:50 pm  
MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:
if this deal collapses its down to one person playing stupid games.


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Re: Takeover updates : Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:08 pm  
MOPSEY LIVES ON wrote:
if this deal collapses its down to one person playing stupid games.


Oh no, thought things were going well.

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Re: Takeover updates : Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:24 pm  
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Here we go.

So...if it does go through, are the rumours down to one vindictive person spreading stupid lies again? Asking for a friend.

I did wonder what your FB buddy would do with himself when Carter steps back but he's already started on Minards.
How long before it's Ellis?
don't patronise me, your very selective who you think is telling lies and if it doesn't fit in with your thoughts and point of view they are a blatant liar. I don't know jm and I thank him for his work at our time of need but now he needs to grow a pair, stand up straight and walk away with his head held high and be remembered for the things he's done. This takeover is needed, change is needed and a clean sweep of the club is needed.
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Re: Takeover updates : Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:26 pm  
From the companies house document it confirms 4 people have Owner Shares , John Allot , Michael Carter, Roger Lambert ( no longer a director according to Companies House ) and John Minards.
I presume that Owner Shares come with voting rights. Then there is listed the people who recently very generously purchased Member Shares, I presume these shares do not have voting rights. At the bottom of the list of people who own member shares is shows Frank Carter who with amazing generosity purchased 300,000 member shares, top man. It does not indicate when these were purchased, it is again a presumption that they were purchased at roughly the same time as the several other people bought mainly 500 or 1000 member shares each. Not including Frank Carter the total Member shares sold was 49,500.
So trying to get to grips with all the informed gossip it would seem that to take control of the club a potential buyer would need the 4 people who have the Owner shares to agree to sell them, it can of course be at a nominal figure as I presume that they have no value, especially as Sports Clubs tend to have considerable debt. So unless there is something in the constitution that says that if a majority of Owner shares vote to sell then a sale goes through. I suppose it could be anyone of the Owner Shareholders who believes its not a good idea to sell to any particular buyer.
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Re: Takeover updates : Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:32 pm  
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From the companies house document it confirms 4 people have Owner Shares , John Allot , Michael Carter, Roger Lambert ( no longer a director according to Companies House ) and John Minards.
I presume that Owner Shares come with voting rights. Then there is listed the people who recently very generously purchased Member Shares, I presume these shares do not have voting rights. At the bottom of the list of people who own member shares is shows Frank Carter who with amazing generosity purchased 300,000 member shares, top man. It does not indicate when these were purchased, it is again a presumption that they were purchased at roughly the same time as the several other people bought mainly 500 or 1000 member shares each. Not including Frank Carter the total Member shares sold was 49,500.
So trying to get to grips with all the informed gossip it would seem that to take control of the club a potential buyer would need the 4 people who have the Owner shares to agree to sell them, it can of course be at a nominal figure as I presume that they have no value, especially as Sports Clubs tend to have considerable debt. So unless there is something in the constitution that says that if a majority of Owner shares vote to sell then a sale goes through. I suppose it could be anyone of the Owner Shareholders who believes its not a good idea to sell to any particular buyer.


You are making the assumption that the 'gossip' is true.
I know which side of the fence I sit and it aint with the gossipmongers.
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Re: Takeover updates : Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:34 pm  
By the way I agree with Mopsey in that if I were a director and Owner share holder I would be purchasing a red carpet, prostrating myself and my fellow Owner share holders in from of Matt Ellis , showering him with rose petals, welcoming him with a fanfare of musicians and simply asking please Sir how can we help your wish is our command
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Re: Takeover updates : Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:44 pm  
wakeytrin wrote:
Where are these listed?

Click onto link
Click on Filings tab
Click top row 27 Jul 2023 Second filing of Confirmation Statement dated 31 March 2023 click view PDF
14 pages
Share holder information starts page 8 :D

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... ng-history
wakeytrin wrote:
Where are these listed?

Click onto link
Click on Filings tab
Click top row 27 Jul 2023 Second filing of Confirmation Statement dated 31 March 2023 click view PDF
14 pages
Share holder information starts page 8 :D

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... ng-history
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